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Bottle of Loosa
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On 8/14/2003 John Kim
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Hey Miko,
Don't bring the bottle of Loosa unless you plan on drinking it yourself. heh heh... Also, don't count out HC, he's looking really really fast.
See ya,
John :p
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Cyber Death Rattle...
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On 8/14/2003
Miko
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I have my NEW ICK Carrera and it is total dope... you are all lunchmeat!!! (Or not depending on who brings the bottle of Loosa...)
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WHERE'S MIKE?
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On 8/14/2003 jULIUS
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WHERE ARE YOU MIKE?
Did you turn off the lights on the East Coast today?
Maybe you are skating @ your secret cyber slalom location
gearing up for Sunday. The Trophy's for the Midtown series
are way cool. It's up for grabs in the open class,
Ravitch, Miko, John Kim and even Myself have a chance of
taking the whole series in points.
JP.
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Midtown WORLDS!!!
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On 8/14/2003
Miko
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Ok guys... things are getting really SERIOUS now that Gary has sent out the .jpg files of the trophies for the Midtown Cyber race as well as the overall series trophies. NO ONE TOLD ME THER'ED BE TROPHYS! I've been practicing myself to near lameness in anticipation of my chance to compete for one of these babies! Ravitch! Kim! WATCH OUT!!!
(Y'know with pictures it's possible that they're really tiny or maybe REALLY HUGE! Gary? Which is it? These things aren't the size of little tiny army men are they?)
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stopping
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On 8/14/2003 tyler
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im 40 and have been scateboarding most of my life,lately ive been going to hills alone.i control my speed by going side to side like a snowboard.when i go too fast straight how do i slow down or stop?
i have heard of a slide,but with the wheels i have in my standard bareback longboard skateboard that doesnt seem possible.or is it?
how else can i stop?
thanks
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Cyber
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On 8/11/2003 Julius
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Thank's Mike,
I knew pushing was the part I missed, getting better.
Watch out for HC, he laid down a great time yesterday
at the proposed cyber location. John and Myself struggled
yesterday, and Gary simulated Mr. Dongs time by extending
the start box from 3 ft to 12ft. Man, It's gonna be hard
to break the low 8. Your a maniac Mr Dong, or you don't have a life outside cyber slalom HA HA.
Hope to see you Sunday!
JP.
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cyber
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On 8/11/2003 gary h.
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Julius, Shoreline times don't count...it's downhill. To break MD's time I'd have to practice for months and learn to enter the course on the right (one more push). I'd be lucky to get a 9 second time..
Miko, we rode Saturday at the usual SC spot. We started pretty early 7:30AM.
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Cyber-Julius...
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On 8/10/2003
Miko
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Every dog has his day... I'll be there at least until 9:30 or 10am, at which point I'll have done whatever damage there is to do! Then it's off to work!
Did you guys session this am? (sunday) I was too trashed and didn't get up until near 10am. Late work schedule is killing me. I'm riding somewhere tomorrow early evening though... maybe I'll do some cyber!
The new ICK Carrrera is set up and ready to go. Stiffer, meaner, and ready to rock. Watch out!
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Cyber Slalom
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On 8/9/2003
john kim
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Hey Miko,
Better practice for the cyber slalom. Its all about the start and Julius really has it down. He's laying down some good times. Its anyones game for the open class. ugh...
See ya there.
John
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Board Stability and Adjustment...
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On 8/9/2003
Miko
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Just a few more cents worth on this George... I've got a Retro-Flattie and a Carrera, ax2ax on the Flattie is about 26", Carrera ax2ax is 23.75"
I've found softer bushings to be a huge help in getting firmness in my setup, while still having enough give to get it to turn. Medium Tracker Stims in the rear and Soft Stims in front have been working great for me.
The Flattie is so stiff that it seems to have the torsional ridgidity to turn very sharp despite it's long w/b. The Carrera is more all-around and seems able to handle the big, fast courses, but I'm now finding that I like to set it up for a more nimble medium sort of course... semi-tight to bit hybrid. I now use the Flattie for the really big stuff and it rocks.
I've begun riding with my bushings a bit more snug like Mike related as well. (But I've been riding my setups really squirrely loose, so it would seem that I'm evolving to a more precise and stable setup.)
Lastly, on my Carrera and more so on the Flattie, for traction, I manage my rear foot placement, pulling it slightly forward for tighter, less-offset cones, and rearward over the rear truck for big offsets and high-speed arcs. You can still raise your heel for faster offsets that far back, but it takes more work with your arms and a more vigorous movement of the arms and body to get the fast response.
Charlie Ransom is a classic example of the lifted heel down-and-driving GS turning style.
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Hey George...
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On 8/9/2003
mike maysey
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Sup George?
The longer board will help immensely. I always like to tell a story to explain, so here goes.
I had a tough time with shorter wheelbase boards (20" inner to inner) like the GS/Hydrid in bigger courses. I had to tighten my trucks a lot. I wanted to avoid wobbs. Who wants to crash at 20 mph because they didn't set up their board properly? Problem was, avoiding wobbs compromised turning agility and consequently, traction. When I first started slalom, I had my trucks pretty tight. I used the stock Indy bushings which are hard as a rock. I loosened them and ran better. I still had trouble on big offsets because the board just wouldn't turn enough when I really needed it to. I changed bushings to something softer and was able to do tight and offset equally well. As I progressed, I thought I needed to run my trucks tigher because in my minds eye, I saw myself gaining velocity if I could not only push off of my board, but off of my bushings. I tried the hard bushings again and skated some very technincal courses and would blow out almost every run. I got rid of the stock bushings, got some Trackers and now run Bones yellows and blues. I use harder one in the back (truck turns less) and soft ones in the front (truck turns more). I also wedge both trucks forward on my hybrid and GS boards so that the front is loose and is turning a lot while the rear is wedged forward and tight...not turning much at all.
These days, I've gotten to the point where I know as soon as I roll into a course, if I should tighten or loosen my trucks, or I thought I did until a couple weeks ago. At WLAC, I won the GS. I got some crucial tips...one of them was to tighten my trucks a hair. The day before at WLAC, I rode that board on a much more technical course. Bulky told me to tighten my trucks, said I looked sketchy around the last major offset coming in toward the finish line. I took the advice and put about a half turn on front and rear and won the race on the next run. I think the longer wheelbases also allow you to avoid wobbs just because the trucks are so far spaced apart...but I'm not physicist.
Conclusion, get a longer board 34-36" total length and 23-25" inner hole measurement, also get it very stiff. If I were you, you mentied ICK, get a flattie or wait a little bit because I know Turner is getting ready to release some production boards. with the longer board you'll be able to loosen your trucks, carry more speed and avoid wobbs with the long wheelbase.
L8SK8er
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pushing around the first cone
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On 8/9/2003
mike maysey
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hmmm, push, push, push...pick your foot up and set it down on the board........I go in toe-side because I can get one last push in before picking up my foot and setting it down. It's easy for me since I'm not a mongo pusher, allows me to get one last push before getting into the course...not to mention I don't have to worry about knocking a cone over as I turn around the first cone.
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Cyber Slalom
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On 8/9/2003
mike maysey
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I think it's great you guys are running cyberslalom. Me...I've been spending 10-12 hours a day for the past week working.
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Cyber Slalom
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On 8/8/2003 Julius
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Mike,
Ran some informal cyber practice last night @ Camp Holl.
Youre in trouble. Gary is running low 8.
Im Getting better at the start, anytips on how to push around
the first cone ( regular ) . Im running in the low 9's.
See you on the 17th. Bring your park board for a session
@ Sunnyvale skatepark after the Midtown event.
J.
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oooops...
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On 8/8/2003 mike maysey
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I meant BEACH, not BEST....whatever, ya drunk!!
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hey george
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On 8/8/2003
mike maysey
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I didn't get home until late tonite...Clayton's bachelor send off was tonite. Picture this, a bunch of Bay Area skaters and some other close friends gathered around a pallet fire on the best drinking beer and talking story.
Good times...anyway, George...I'll have time to get to your question more specifically tomorrow night. I've been working this new job lately where I'm putting in 10-12 hour days, so I haven't had as much time as usual to answer.
Tomorrow........
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George's backside
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On 8/7/2003 Ravitch
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Well I would tell you one thing - to drive your weight down through the trucks onto the wheels - consciously thinking about/doing that requires being closer to the stance that is right over the trucks. Other than that, I would try to lean back a little more cuz you are sliding our from the rear wheels - you got lbs. for traction so use them, baby!
Ravitch
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Govinator
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On 8/7/2003 the Cone HUSTLER
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Flindt has forgotten more about government than Arnold will ever know
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Gov Mike Maysey
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On 8/7/2003 Julius
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Mike, you still have time to run for Gov.
You could make all those killer slalom spots legal
on Sundays. Just think, charge $1.00 to each rider,
we could balance the budget! I think there's something like
200 billion slalom riders in California on Sundays.
I would vote for Mollica, but he left California years ago,
"Nature Boy Gov " Looks like the Terminator will be my vote. Gary Coleman? Larry Flint ?
Shoreline tonight, Camp Holl.
J.
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racin' & stuff
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On 8/7/2003 george g.
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Yea Dave, you were looking good at Loretta. figure that there were only a few open class guys there, the rest are pros.. anyways it was a great hill and good time in spite of the bruising!
Gary Coleman for guvner! go California. raight naow your choices are Arnold, Gallager, Coleman, Flint it's all good.
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George
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On 8/7/2003 Hamm
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George, scroll back a page or 2. I had a similar ? for Mike a week or 2 ago and he gave some real good tips. I suck and I'm slow, but I do know that since widening my stance I've been able to put more downforce on the rear and increase traction.
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backside ugh!
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On 8/7/2003 george g.
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usually in the upper part of the course too. first 3-8 cones. i cannot think of any other variables.
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backside ugh!
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On 8/7/2003 george g.
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O.K John, here goes, sliding out at offsets. no wheel bite ever as far as I can tell. always backside offsets and the whole board seems to go away from under me. I can usually bring in a rear wheel slide or drift. it feels like grease in under the 4 wheels. I may not be looking over my left shoulder far enough. I am regular foot. I am trying to look at video to check it. Maria C is just getting to the Elsinore video.
I was thinking about a longer wheelbase for big courses. I rode a borrowed 35" Ick from Rick in the G/S at WLAC and shaved almost 2 seconds. I was looking for more speed and probably could have run Avilas in 75a or 72a if i had em. I ran basically the same course with the shorter board and had it go away from me. (30 inch deck, 20 inch inner to inner) I weigh in at right around 205 now and have size 13 feet on a six foot frame. and maybe I just need to practice big speed offset more??? loosen my trucks to help the turn? I'll try anything.
John, I am happy for you and Adissa and new mutt too. See ya at Morro Bay.
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road rash
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On 8/6/2003 Ravitch
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George,
Glad to hear you're out there racing - I think Mike and the rest of us could use a little more info to diagnose the situation. Are you sliding out, bottoming out with wheel bite, is it happening higher on the course or at the bottom. Does it happen when you go around stingers, offsets?
Adisa said to say hi to you and Kim. She leaves Hopi and AZ tomorrow to return to the bay area with our new puppy, walpi.
Sirie rocks - I think she should start giving some skating pointers and come to think of it, I would back her as a gubernatorial candidate. Move over, Arnold.
Ravitch
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back side ouch!
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On 8/6/2003
george g.
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Hi Mike, for the second time, in the last two races I beefed hard on a backside turn. these are on a G/S course once on the WLAC hill and now Loretta. it seems as though my board just gives away, and i am landing on my ass/side. at Loretta St. i hit hard enough to hurt my day and for that matter my week, I'm still hurting. Currently running a Cross fat ass or an Ick Carrera (same basic 20 inch inner hole to inner hole) tracker offset r, both wedged. both times on Avalons. both on the 80a's.
you have any thoughts? these boards are super stable at speed. I have been to some of the bigger hills this year, Elsinore, WLAC and now Loretta. no problems with the speed just those darn backside offsets! thanks.
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