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| Q&A: Slalom Pro Mike Maysey (2489 Posts)
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GS/Hybrid
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On 11/20/2003
mike maysey
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Dave, sorry I missed you guys in WVa...I'm so broke right now I can't pay attention. Travelling is completely out of the question for me at this point and probably for the future...at least until I have a sponsor helping me to travel or I land a job that will afford me the luxury of travelling more. I have no idea about that board. Maybe it was mine, maybe it wasn't.
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Niall's Set up
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On 11/20/2003
mike maysey
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What you want is a set of avalons, Tracker trucks (RTX ft, RTS rr) and a good deck. There are many decks out there to consider. Check out all the manufacturers. Don't get too bogged down in the rhetoric. But be open to suggestion. Angled risers help a ton
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Narrow trucks and stiff decks.
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On 11/20/2003
Geezer-X
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Monkeywrench Machine Works (www.monkeywrenchmachineworks.com)
can narrow your Trackers, Indys, and Randals as well as installing 8mm CrMo axles. Their Duallie conversion allows you to run multiple widths with one set of hangers. 90-110 is what we do the most. Kenny got 88s. As for planks, Vlads been on them for ages, as has UR13.
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Neill's Crossfire...
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On 11/20/2003
Geezer-X
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I neglected to mention that the whole rig shouldn't be more than about $225 US. You're in the UK right? Contact Michael Stride at Octane Sports.
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Hutson replacement
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On 11/20/2003
Geezer-X
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Get a Roe Racing Crossfire with a Tracker RTX on the front, and an RTS on the rear. Dewedge the rear truck, and leave the front flat. Get a set of 3DM Avalons, 85a front, and 80a rear, and use biltin bearings. If you really want the whole mess to work, get some Tracker stimulator bushings and trim them down in diameter, and put kingpins in your trucks that are 1/4" longer, so you can use full sized bushings top and bottom. This is a modern race ready setup that is also superb for running imaginary cones on the way to the cafe, and being a wood/carbon fiber laminate, will feel not too unlike your Hutson, just snappier, turnierm grippier, and much, much faster. Trust me, I raced in the 70s, the new stuff is ***SO*** much better.
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Niall's new deck!
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On 11/20/2003
Niall Horton-Stephens
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Thanks Henry... looked at Ick site... will give it serious consideration. Appreciate the thought.
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Niall's new board
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On 11/20/2003
Henry
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WWW.ICKSTICKS.COM
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GS/Hybrid
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On 11/19/2003
DAve G
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Mike
missed you in W.Va this year!!
I recently acquired a proto type G/Hybrid w/ a 5" graphite strip, slightly offset to the right..It is marked #4 from the series of 0 thru #8 Howard thinks it was your's..any knowledge?
Dave G
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My 1977 John Hutson Santa Cruz deck is dead - advice on replacement?
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On 11/19/2003
Niall Horton-Stephens
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Question... I've been riding a circa 77' Santa Cruz John Hutson Graphite Deck since... 1977! Running mid tracks, Belair Wings at front, RR Henry Hesters at rear... and always been supremely happy with it.. absolutely loved it.... until disaster... the deck is now road-kill... almost snapped in half. Now I'm trying to get a hold of the same deck (if anyone has one....), but wondered, as I'm really out of touch with slalom developments in recent years, are new decks much better? Is my current running gear way off the pace? Would I really notice a difference switching my deck allegiance? Always fancied a Turner... (are they shipping SR71's?)is the character of these going to be way different to what I'm used to with the Hutson board? Also, love the look of the Pocket Pistols + seem incredibly light. Should I change my trucks... what's the hottest thing out there for wheel / truck combos. Angled truck risers a help? narrow front / wide rear? Your thoughts much appreciated (and any info. on tracking down the Santa Cruz!). Sorry... loads of questions but it's my first post to this GREAT site. :-)
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ts
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On 11/18/2003
mike maysey
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Henry,
This past season all my boards, from ts to gs boards, were gravitating toward being stiff and almost completely flex free. As a matter of fact, PD made me a wood plank with a layer of carbon fiber on the bottom. The board felt fast when I tried it the first time. I ended up with a second in the GS at McClaren Park on that plank. It was stiff as a....... board.
Stiff is better for one reason. When I slalom skate, I usually pump hard at only one point in my turn. The rest of the turn I use to either set up for that pump or to set up for the next pump. On a flexy board, if I pump hard and fast the board often feels like it 'lags'. I think, for me, by skating on a board that's rock hard I can translate my power/downward thrust through the board and wheels and make a turn at the precise point I want. (I can also ride harder wheels than on a flex board.) On a board with flex, it feels like it takes the board too long to react to me, messing up my timing. I think this holds true especially if I get off-line in a tight course on a flexy board. It's very very difficult for me to pull back into a course and back on-line in a ts course. On a stiff plank (I skated a serious session a couple nights ago on my Maha) I was able to compensate immediatly when I got off-line. The stiff board doesn't 'lag' when recovering from the last turn. The stiff board was simply right there under my feet waiting for me to make the change I need to make to stay in the course and NOT plow a bunch of cones.
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ts
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On 11/17/2003
Henry
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Hey Mike-
At Breck this past summer Kenny and I had a short conversation about what type of board works best for ts. Kenny was having issues really makin his Pistol 32" work for him through Sunday's course... and we sort of came to the conclusion that for ts you either need high camber flexy pumpable board or one with absolutely no flex at all... what do you think?
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OAK!!!!!
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On 11/11/2003
Steve Sherman-LaCosta Boys Racing
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Yo Arab,
Just to add fuel to the fire..I won my first race at LaCosta(Oct.77) on a 30 inch oak Brewer.I had been ridind my Turner Full nose on all these hair raisingG.S.
races and couldn't break the top 5.So I stared to ride my park /pool board as a experiment to see if the flex was slowing me down.On the down the line super G.S. it went insane!!! It didn't go well on the cranker offset cones,but on balls to the walls it flew.Tommy Ryan and Bobby Turner weren't too stoked,But the Oak felt fast as hell...
I was the youngest racer(14 years old) to win ever at the LaCosta races and it showed me "Stiffer IS faster"
SHERM TANK
I was the youngest guy(14 years old) to win a LaCosta Weekend race.Stiffer IS faster....
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Old School Tricks
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On 11/10/2003 msk
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Check out "Tony Hawk's Trick Tips Vol 3". The first half is old school street tricks with Mike Vallely. Other than that one, I can't think of any others...
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Old School Skating
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On 11/10/2003
mike maysey
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Anyone out there know of a good 'how-to' video of 80's style skating? I was at Berkeley skatepark today and there was this dude doing all these old school tricks that I kinda remember. I want to learn those tricks.
After all, Hack said it himself, "what we're doing is so old, it's new." I'd like to see a good 'how-to' video from the day or see someone produce one now...a sort of nastalgic skate 'how-to.'
Anyone have a similar experience?
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narrow front truck, wide rear truck
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On 11/8/2003
Michael Dong
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In Antibes, France I noticed that both Luca and Ugolini (he is the Italian Gary Cross - very powerful guy) both ran smaller wheels up front and larger in the rear and narrower fronts trucks and wider rear trucks. Ugolini's solid wood deck was the most outrageous thing I've ever seen. looks like he used bondo and wood pieces to completely shape the deck for both front and rear feet. Can't bondo a flex board without affecting the flex itself. Still, the unbelievably fast Maurus Stoebel (not the same guy you've seen at Morro before - he is way faster than he was there), used avalons front and rear for the special slalom.
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Height Street Skater Cross
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On 11/8/2003
Elvis
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Looser buys the first round at 8pm
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Solid Wood
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On 11/7/2003
mike maysey
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Factory 13 is making me a custom 8-ply stick...I can't wait to ride it. Flat with a single kick and ultra stiff. It's going to be a little wider than the MAHA I've been riding at 7.75 and little longer at 31". Who knows what all this means. All I know is it may or may not be the latest greatest slalom technology, I don't really care, I'm having fun. I'm not riding trucks that are any narrower than stock Tracker RT-S/X. I think the narrower board will accomidate. The wider boards work really well for me on wider, more open courses. The wood stick is slated for tighter slalom....at least that's the plan. Who knows what will actually happen.
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Radikal DSX
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On 11/7/2003
Keith Hollien
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George, Mark is remaking his 2nd Radikal truck called the DSX. I think they were originally made in 1978. They are the trucks I rode from 1979 until 1993, when I had to stop running cones because of a back injury. They were the basis for new front trucks. The DSX had a 45 degree base plate and was much higher than the new Radikal II Titanium trucks. The DSX was the same front and back. The width of the DSX was 4"(101mm). Mark had a tool made so he could trim the axles down. We rode a front truck of 3.5"(89mm) and the rear was 4"(101). The new DSX will have removeable axles just like the new Radikal trucks. I think(they better) the cost will be $50 or less a piece. They are suppose to made out of alum. and mag. like the originals. They hopefully will be done early 2004.
Later Keith, Teams Radikal & RoeRacing.
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Tight Shmight Shmaller Trucks
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On 11/7/2003
Arab
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Tight Shmight Shmaller Trucks
I rode custom indy 121's(no offset) on a 9.5x32" board that had a 20 3/8 wheelbase on sunday at MB, It actually felt to loose for that course, I practiced on 5' centers and it felt good at that and even ran some 4.5 with it with no problems.
My other board is 9.75x36" with a 24" wheelbase and custom Indy 131's, this board is my all around board, It goes through 6' with no worries, I rode it at the Bear, Kona and it has got me thru every course over the last almost 2 yrs, the only courses I have not run this board is Breck TS and MB TS.
So to each his own, I like bigger wider boards and trucks, they have performed just fine for me and my style of skateing.
Dont get caught up in the hype of what somebody else is riding, what works for them probably wont work for you, I have about 100 solid oak 70's kicktail skateboards in my garage, all NOS and waiting to be picked up as the newest lastest thing in slalom technology.
I guess I should have made up some story of how I'm 3 seconds faster on an 11 second course on a solid oak board, then these things would be flying off the shelf.
I guess you'll just never know how fast you can be on a solid oak board unless you try it.
Original Solid Oak 70's skateboards Mint NOS
$75.00
email me
free shipping
Arab
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Radikal
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On 11/6/2003 george g.
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Hi Keith thanks for answering. I heard that Radikal is going to come out with some aluminum trucks a little more affordable. I guesss these will be what was in the 80's? I don't know as I never saw them. What are they? I see a reasonably priced front truck for sure....
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Radikal's Width
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On 11/6/2003
Keith Hollien
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George, it depends on which axle you put in the wing. The axles screws in and out. The axles come in 1/4", 1/2", 3/4" and 1". There will be 1/8" Titanium washers to go on the inside of the axle(were it screws into the wing) soon. That way you will be able to increase by 1/4" incremnets. The front wing with no axles is 3" and the rear wing with swing arm is 3.75"(no axles). The front truck can go from 3.5"(88.9mm)with 1/4" axles to 5"(127mm) with the 1" axles. The rear swing arm truck can go from 4.25"(107.9mm) to 5.75"(146mm). The rear swing arm wing can be trimmed down by 1/4", so it starts at 4"(101.6mm). I am using 1" = 25.4mm for conversions. If anybody has any questions about Radikal trucks(or my Roe Signature Series) feel free to e-mail me with your phone # and I will call.
Later Keith, Teams Radikal & RoeRacing.
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Logan Earth Ski
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On 11/6/2003 george g.
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Hi Mike, amazing that Luca had us look outside the box and now we are going back to a Logan Earth Ski. Experimenting with solid oak 16 inch wheelbases. Tight trucks. I looked all over to figure out the Radikal width in mm and haven't found it. 88 mm seems to be a choice on the Pocket Pistol website. stock Trackers appear to be sold out (mids?) After Sun at the Worlds everyone is scrambling to figure out how to go even tighter. Thank you for looking into it.
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Toronado
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On 11/5/2003 Brown Bomber
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SLALOM SYMPOSIUM : TORONADO SAT NIGHT 8 ISH!
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skinny trucks
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On 11/5/2003
mike maysey
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Thanks for the input guys...
I've been up to some interesting experimentation lately with an oak deck and a tall ass foot stop. This board has none, zero, zilch, nada flex and no twist...yes, yes it's like a Luca style board only mine isn't flat with a kicktail, it's rockered and man oh man, I think I found something that might just work for me and my style. I think Luca could be onto something with that...duh, obviously. Maybe so, maybe no...anyway, I took it on a good hill that I occasionally skate in my neighborhood yesterday and the first thing I noticed is...it seems to not carry speed as well as the longer board I usually ride. But when I'm pumping, it turns so quick that I can turn hard and slow down (if I start to outrun myself and my padless knees) a lot easier than on the longer board...a kind of board slide check, if you can imagine that...
Did I just rant something that doesn't make any sense? You decide...heheheheheh....late, I'm going to work
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Narrow Trucks
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On 11/4/2003
Keith Hollien
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TK, I agree with you.
I have said before that I ride a narrower truck in the front than in the back. This is a little different than narrow in front and back, but similar idea. One other thing to remmember is a narrow truck is relative to deck width.
Later Keith, Teams Radikal & RoeRacing.
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