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| Q&A: Slalom Pro Mike Maysey (2489 Posts)
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HUh Huh???
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On 12/18/2003 Terry
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Let me clarify.
Its not the board that makes him fast.
The board handicaps him.
He is still fast despite this handicap.
Modern gear be it Roe, radical PVD, Chicken, etc... will allow him to go even faster.
They don't sell oak skis anymore.
There is a reason for this.
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bruce's fibreflex with spring thingamajig
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On 12/17/2003 hc
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http://www.geocities.com/wackyboards/fibreflex_spring.jpg
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huh?
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On 12/17/2003 hc
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it ain't the board, but somehow he will be faster on roe and pvd's ???
wonder what luca think of all this, when i talk to him at MB, he does seem pretty unaware of the whole current slalom equipment 'advances'.
but i do agree with tk, it's probably more technique than anything else....
bruce, thx for that link, pretty whacky ;-)
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Luca
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On 12/17/2003 TK
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Gilmour has forgotton more about board design than most people know.
Luca is a freak. The reason he wins is because of his skill and weight to strength ratio. His board is a handicap. Put him on a Roe Cross Fire stiff with PVD's and he would blow minds even more.
It aint the board people.
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rear truck placement
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On 12/17/2003 Hamm
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what's different about the rear truck placement??
where is the rear truck in relation to the kicktail??
not trying to pound this thread into the ground, just trying to get my info straight as MY wood board may come to life this weekend
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Wood
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On 12/17/2003
mike maysey
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19" happened to be where the builder drilled it. I didn't pick it but it seems to work very well. I think with the additional steering I put back into the rear it's going to work great for anything TS-HS...
The kicktail is such an interesting addition to a slalom board. As well as the placement of the rear truck.
Brian Patch kills it in Chicken's pool. Salba, Reuler and the rest.....holy crap, buy the movie. The Olson/Hackett stuff is hilarious at times.
Late...............
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Wood
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On 12/17/2003 Hamm
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Mike,
Brian Patch FLYS out of Chicken's doesn't he? Insane!
You say your new wood board has an 19"WB??
Just curious how you came up with 19 instead of 18
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Wood
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On 12/17/2003
mike maysey
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Rode the wood stick last night on a decent course. It worked very well. The kicktail worked unreal adding leverage while cranking heelside turns. My setup was not quite turny enough so I took the additional riser out and added some turning back. Can't wait to ride it again this evening. The 85 wheels I was riding were groaning in the rear with each offset.
Watched 'Chlorine' last night. GET THIS MOVIE! Brian Patch has some killer runs in Chicken's pool. And Salba, holy crap. You must see this movie!!!!!
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70's (AF) technology
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On 12/16/2003
Norski
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I came across this board last week on eBay. I tried to add it to my collection, but look who nabbed it!
Sorry, I don't have luck posting pics.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3642895013
I have also seen this set-up on a Fibreflex. I emailed a pic to hc. Maybe he'll post it!
L8r SK8rs' and "Happy Holidays"
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adjustable rods
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On 12/16/2003 george g.
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That is interesting. I have some swim fins with adjustable strips/rods, depending on leg strength, current, water temp etc. That is a good idea, like insertable carbon arrows into a deck, you bet that 2-3 would make a difference with virtually no weight penalty.
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solid oak vs composite
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On 12/16/2003 hc
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I remembered reading this post by JG when I was learning slalom.
http://www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/slalomdeck.html
(scroll down)
It's interesting to reread it after watching luca's performance at MB, although I don't buy JG's theory...
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adjustable flex (AF)
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On 12/16/2003 hc
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george, i mentioned similar ideas before.
(partly inspired by Slingshot bicycles)
another variation would be to add spings or urethane bushings at the end of the cable (or kevlar tape in GC's case).
JKim have built one with adjustable tension cables.
I would like to build a AF deck, possibly with removable carbon rods, someday...
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k2
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On 12/16/2003 hc
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msk, thx for that link, i remembered reading about those 'smart skis' in PopSci, and wondered whether it was a gimmick or not. I just checked the k2 site to see if there's more info, but seems like they don't use them anymore, but some mass dampener thingamagig...
http://www.k2skis.com/thelab/
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Flex control
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On 12/16/2003 george g.
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A year or two ago, Gary Cross had a board with a kevlar type belt running under it. It appeared to be attached between the trucks like a stringer, as wide as the trucks. It looked like it stopped the flex after a certain amount of compression. It could be made adjustable using different holes. Of course one would have to loosen or remove a truck to do it. Simple and interesting. But that was the last time I saw it.
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not exactly variable flex, but...
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On 12/16/2003
msk
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Piezos have been used to control vibration on snow skis, and a few years ago, K2 adapted the technology to mountain bikes. Their "Smart Shock" used piezos and a microprocessor to constantly monitor how fast and how far the shock was moving, and adjust the compression damping accordingly. It worked pretty well, except for short battery life, and people kept forgetting to turn it back on (it would shut off if it didn't sense any motion after a short period, and had to be manually turned on)...
more info
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variable flex
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On 12/15/2003 Aaron Morris
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Gareth,
What kind os stuff does "variable flex". What other sports uses this kind of tech?
Aaron
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Can You Say "piezo" Sure - I knew ya could!
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On 12/14/2003
GR
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"...Today's tech. does not permit this kind of "variable flex", but it would be very cool. Maybe soon..."
Aaron - Sooner than you think! Its already here in a lot of other recreational applications.
G-
PS. Great ideas Mike!
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variable flex
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On 12/14/2003 Aaron Morris
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Mike,
Maybe i thot of a way. If you had a stringer that could be controlled by tension like the muscles in your body. The less tension on the stringet the flexier the board, and ther tighter the stringer the stiffer the board. It could be controlled by a remote that you could adjust when needed. This is fun thinking of ways to improve.
Aaron
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variable flex boards
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On 12/14/2003
Aaron Morris
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Mike,
The easiest solution is to have a bunch of boards with different flexes. Run each board, and see which board produces the fastest time. Today's tech. does not permit this kind of "variable flex", but it would be very cool. Maybe soon.
Aaron
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Traction and Stability
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On 12/14/2003
mike maysey
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...those are two things I am not willing to compromise by moving my feet around on my board during a run. My thought was to uncomplicate the sport, not introduce another variable.
Keep the ideas flowing though....................
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variable flex
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On 12/14/2003 Aaron Morris
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Mike,
You could change your stance on the board, by putting your feet closer together and farther away from the trucks tro create more flex, and then step back to your regular stance. Just a thought, but you might sacrifice traction and stability and other crutial element in slalom courses.
Aaron
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I just thought of something
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On 12/14/2003
mike maysey
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I just had another thought....
The variable flex board would work great for setting courses that have the rider speeding through gates at full speed on a deck that is 'locked' out. Then slowing up for a section of cones where the rider has to generate speed on a deck that has a bit of flex for generating speed.
How can the flex on a board be made variable? What kind of material can be both flexible and rigid? How does it change from flex to rigid? How can I control it during a run?
What kind of flex does a slalom snowboard have? How much flex does a giant slalom snowboard have? What about slalom ski's? What about suspension on an Indy car? What keeps the wheels on the ground? I talked to a guy the other day at the bike shop who was a car racer. It was funny how we had similar ideas of durometer, temperature, surface...
I've got a link to share...due to some language I'm going to put an NC-17 rating on it. It's funny sh!t?
Paste the link
http://www.members.cox.net/impunity/endofworld.swf
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Wood
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On 12/13/2003
mike maysey
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Aaron, the board's dimensions are 31"x 7 3/4" tapering to 7 1/2" through the tail. It has an inner hole measurement of 19"...it has concave and a kick tail. I haven't ridden it yet as the Bay Area has been recently and continually soaked by rain. Standing on it in the living room feels good, we'll have to see how it performs in a course. If it's anything like the Maha I've been riding, it should be rippin'.
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WOOD
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On 12/13/2003
Aaron Morris
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Mike,
What are the dimension of the wood board that you are riding?
Thanks,
Aaron
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Flex
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On 12/12/2003
slalomskateboader
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Awesome, Mike. Way to think "out of the box"!!!
I just had an interesting thought.........
Most dual suspension mountain bikes have what's referred to as 'lockout.' The shocks have valves on them that can be shut off making the suspension inactive. Wouldn't it be cool to have a board that had controllable flex or 'lockout?' Think of it....At the beginning of a run you could make the deck flex responsive, then it could became stiffer as the riders' speed built. Maybe it could could be built to sense speed or maybe the amount of force you're throwing into it? Personally, I think flex is best at the beginning of a push start run. Ramp starts are probably best on a board with the flex turned off or with the 'lockout' turned on. If the ramp start is no giving riders enough go, the board could be set to flex in the first 5 cones or 8 cones or something like that.
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