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maryhill
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On 1/25/2005
david
wrote in from
United States
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yo mike, you should save up some $$ and come race maryhill this summer, you dont need leathers, what have you got to lose besides some skin? lets race bro, dont forget the rope!
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Kebbek
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On 1/25/2005
Betty
wrote in from
United States
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Mr. Maysey, have you seen the new Kebbek boards? Claude Regnier is CKnuck, right? And these are his model boards or he is producing them? Have you ridden one? Has anyone ridden them- the site I saw didn't mention anything about camber or concave, I was wondering how the flex was compared to the Pocket Pistol. He has one called Slalom Giant (a 36")that I was looking at- thanks.
I may just hold off on getting a board until after I've tried a few- I want to try the new Roes- but I don't understand really what makes them different from their foam core boards.
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Ya one more time Slalom practice & garage racing in San Jose
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On 1/21/2005
Mark Johnson
wrote in from
United States
(68.124.nnn.nnn)
Saturday Janury 22 Slalom practice at Bernal rd San Jose 80 cone course set
Sunday January 23 3pm Outlaw garage race #6
meet at the Workhouse recording studio in San Jose at 2:30
any questions call 408 287 1843 or go to: Click here for link
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Boardz
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On 1/21/2005
Betty
wrote in from
United States
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Yeah, I went the Bahne Black Hill way starting out, but once I stepped on that Roe I knew I needed something more technical. I'm really thinking of getting a 36" Pocket Pistol for GS type courses- and I really think it's time I invested in those off-set trucks Chicken has- I got my husband some for his birthday and he loves them- I think everyone on Roadkill has off sets now, 'cept for me and Meg. :( But it's in the works. I need to learn more about wheels, if ya'll have any input there. I've really only ridden Manx and Grippins, I want to try Avalons, but the whole color thing confuses me. Do you want softer wheels in the back and harder wheels in the front? Mr. Maysey, how do you have your wheels? Thanks for all the feedback. I'm hoping to make it to more races this year- I want to hit St. Louis, Breckenridge, Athens, and of course I'll be at Luna. See ya'll there.
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A Board for Betty, Part III
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On 1/20/2005 Same Guy
wrote in from
United States
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Another multi wheel base option is the Bahne Blackhill, and fairly easy on the budget to boot.-Paul
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A Board for Betty, Part II
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On 1/20/2005 Pauliwog's 2 cents
wrote in from
United States
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If you're thinking of getting, as Mike suggested, another board or two, and you're REALLY into slalom, it's worth getting the good stuff which often is spendier. In the meantime, for a good "one gun" I recommend an 8-ply stiff flat(no camber) wood deck with holes drilled for 18"-23" (with wheel wells for all wb lengths is even better but you'll probably have to do that yourself) so you can really mess around with one deck and get a good solid handle on wheelbases you like for different courses. Because it's stiff and flat no matter what wb you use on it, there's less variables to worry about like camber and stiffness matching your weight and wheel base. Often a longboard cut down works really well, or a short longboard for that matter. I still keep my deck like this as a "defensive" board for courses that are really tight/fast and on fairly good surfaces. Sometimes Lo-Tech is best(but sometimes not). Plus it's a good loaner for any friends to try slaloming on. I am but a B division racer so take all this for what it's worth. - Paul
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C-Blocks
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On 1/20/2005
mike maysey
wrote in from
United States
(63.16.nnn.nnn)
"How do people typically put these wedges in? Wedge up the front toe & rear heel? Front heel and rear toe? Toes on both feet? Heels on both? Both sides of both feet?"
Typically, people will use the wedges to 'concave' the nose of the board and use a section of the wedge in the tail to create a 'kicktail.' Some people only use it to concave the nose and leave the tail of the board flat. For instance, I use high density foam on my Ick stick in the shape of a 'V' in the nose pointing forward so that the steepest part of the 'concave' is right above my front truck. I've also checked out Chickens boards and he uses the C-Blocks in a 'V' shape, without any in the tail. Richy uses the foam in the nose to create 'concave' and some in the tail to create a 'kicktail.' I've also seen boards that use it all the way down the rail creating a kind of concave from nose to tail. If I were you, I'd take that foam with the backing still on it and lay it on my board. With bare feet stand on it and see what feels okay. Move it around and see if any one position sort of speaks to you. If you ride pools or parks, stand on that board and see if that's a feeling you might like on a slalom board.
Hope this helps...M
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A board for Betty
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On 1/20/2005
mike maysey
wrote in from
United States
(63.16.nnn.nnn)
Mr. Maysey, I am looking into getting a new slalom set up... and I'm wondering what you suggest. I was riding the keith hollien roe for a long time, and it got to feeling a little clausterphobic- like I needed a bigger board. I switched to a 36" board, and whether it was the sheer weight of a much bigger board or whatever, I gained a little something. Anyway, I know a 36" slalom board isn't a logical choice for tight slalom, but I think I may have a board in the making that will be a perfect ts set up. As for gs, if I can handle the 36" and am comfortable on it, is that what I should be riding?
Yes, my GS board is around about that length. The more important measurement though on slalom boards is the inner hole to inner hole measurement. For instance, I ride a 24" inner to inner board for GS/SGS. It's very long but holds speed very well and allows me to draw my turns out longer so I can drive more effectively from cone to cone.
"Is it possible that the bigger board is improving my pump and increasing my speed, or would a smaller, 20 something inch board be better for improving my style, speed, etc.?"
It certainly is. You're learning how to move your body and board in unisen. The longer board, in my opinion, will make riding your shorter boards easier because you'll take that technique and translate it into shorter bursts rather than longer sustained turns like you will do on the longer board.
"I'm just not sure what I want- go figure. Thanks in advance for replying to this post."
Most slalom skaters have 3 or more boards in the garage to tackle different courses. Sounds to me like you're working your way into having multiple boards.
Hope this helps...if only a little bit. Anyone else want to chime in? Feel free. Late
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C-Block Foam Wedges
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On 1/20/2005
Chris
wrote in from
United States
(216.243.nnn.nnn)
Hi Mike,
I just got my new slalom deck in the mail today. I also got some C-Block foam wedges.
How do people typically put these wedges in? Wedge up the front toe & rear heel? Front heel and rear toe? Toes on both feet? Heels on both? Both sides of both feet?
I know it is a matter of personal preference, but since I've never even ridden them, I have no preference. And they only stick on once. If you could just tell me how most people do it, then I would at least have a starting point.
I really appreciate any guidance you could give me.
Thanks.
CM
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ready for something new...
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On 1/20/2005
betty
wrote in from
United States
(64.247.nnn.nnn)
Mr. Maysey, I am looking into getting a new slalom set up... and I'm wondering what you suggest. I was riding the keith hollien roe for a long time, and it got to feeling a little clausterphobic- like I needed a bigger board. I switched to a 36" board, and whether it was the sheer weight of a much bigger board or whatever, I gained a little something. Anyway, I know a 36" slalom board isn't a logical choice for tight slalom, but I think I may have a board in the making that will be a perfect ts set up. As for gs, if I can handle the 36" and am comfortable on it, is that what I should be riding? Is it possible that the bigger board is improving my pump and increasing my speed, or would a smaller, 20 something inch board be better for improving my style, speed, etc.? I'm just not sure what I want- go figure. Thanks in advance for replying to this post.
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Wheels and narrow tails
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On 1/19/2005 P.Wog
wrote in from
United States
(64.5.nnn.nnn)
Thanks for all the info everyone- Paul
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Wheels
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On 1/19/2005
mike maysey
wrote in from
United States
(63.16.nnn.nnn)
I think you're right, cut wheels slide more controllably and predictably, but anytime you're sliding, you're losing speed. No course should require a slide, I don't think. For instance, I know if I'm sliding in a course, I should probably do something different to compensate for that... ie.) take a wider line around the cone before the one you are sliding on. Happened to me last weekend...I took a huge push in after Chicken layed down the fast time and slid around about 4 cones near the top...lost all my top end speed and went way, way slower than my previous and fastest run. Next run, I took less of a push, didn't slide and took another hundredth off my fastest time of the day. I compensated and went faster. I do ride Manx wheels which are like an Avalon with the edge trimmed slightly.
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Cutting wheels
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On 1/19/2005 Dave
wrote in from
United States
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Thanks Mike: I am cutting the wheels to get more
control if I slide not to get narrow. On the 75-78
Avalons the rear would hop and slide. The lips would
fold back. I am thinking a cut wheel has less grip
but more controlled slide. Also some courses require
sliding while other courses can be made without
any sliding.
My coned 78's may be good for a course that needs grip
and some sliding and 82's for a course that needs less
grip and a faster wheel?
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boards
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On 1/18/2005
david
wrote in from
United States
(68.167.nnn.nnn)
i have a homemade board with a very wide tail, i find grip from the rear is greater and when i do slide its very controllable, its at the point where i can almost do 4 wheel powerslides with 75a avalons.
on a side note, mike, i've been putting alot of miles on my roomates bianchi pista since he ain't using it, talk about a good cross trainer for skating!
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Chill out Pauliwog
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On 1/17/2005
mike maysey
wrote in from
United States
(67.225.nnn.nnn)
On 1/13/2005 Dave wrote in from 67.168.xxx.xxx: (United States)
My 78a Avalons are coned quite a bit
and are cut to about 50mm wide. Are
coned wheels much slower?
Would I be better off with a harder
wheel 80a-82a and full width or cut
a little, 53mm?
Coned wheels are slower, in my experience. However they do tend to hook up better in turns...it's kind of a trade off. As for cutting wheels, I wouldn't bother...just get some narrower trucks if you want a narrower track on your board.
On 1/12/2005 Pauliwog wrote in from 64.5.xxx.xxx: (United States)
Question for the surf stancers- Do you find that you're getting more traction from the back wheels with a wider tail and sliding a little more with a narrower tail? Seems like I'm experiencing that and I think I know why but I won't go into that yet. Let me know here on this forum. Thanks - Paul
This is a tough one. I ride wide tails and don't slide out unless my body is in the wrong position or something else goes wrong that's my doing. I don't find it has anything to do with the width of the board. Perhaps it has something to do with the relationship between the width of your rear truck in relation to the board width. I'm not sure. Anyone want to add to this?
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Dave A's Coned Wheel Question
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On 1/14/2005 Pauliwog filling in for Chris Farley
wrote in from
United States
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Would someone answer Dave's question?
For the Love of God, would someone PLEASE answer the man's Question?
What is wrong with you peaple anyway?
What is it gonna take for someone to step up and answer the man's question?
Ok, so that was getting carried away in a typical Chris Farley (R.I.P.) flavor, Dave and I have discussed this aspect of wheels and I'd like to know other peaple'e opinions as well. Thanks-Paul
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The People's Slalom/BBQ
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On 1/13/2005 Pauliwog
wrote in from
United States
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Hey Dave! April 10th Sunday in Salem! Thor, Pete, and I might try to plan something this Sunday if the weather looks good. Later-P
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Rear wheels coning/speed/grip/duro
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On 1/13/2005 Dave
wrote in from
United States
(67.168.nnn.nnn)
My 78a Avalons are coned quite a bit
and are cut to about 50mm wide. Are
coned wheels much slower?
Would I be better off with a harder
wheel 80a-82a and full width or cut
a little, 53mm?
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RTS offset PPS
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On 1/13/2005 Dave
wrote in from
United States
(67.168.nnn.nnn)
Yes it is not a stock PPS truck.
I sent in a 129 RTS and chicken
made it a 101 offset for me.They
were doing a batch of trucks then.
He also said that some of the RTS
hangers don't have enough metal
around the axels to make offset.
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Narrow Vs Wide Tails
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On 1/12/2005 Pauliwog
wrote in from
United States
(64.5.nnn.nnn)
Question for the surf stancers- Do you find that you're getting more traction from the back wheels with a wider tail and sliding a little more with a narrower tail? Seems like I'm experiencing that and I think I know why but I won't go into that yet. Let me know here on this forum. Thanks - Paul
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Trucks and Trophies
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On 1/12/2005 Pauliwog
wrote in from
United States
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MIKE MAYSEY-The RT-S offset I mentioned was a stock RT-S I sent to Chicken and he or his machinist or whoever did it. Correct, to my knowledge that's not a regular item from PP who knows what secret plans C has going anyway.
BILL BOOTHBY-Are you 50 something with curly greyish hair? Did I meet you at Morro Bay? Were you hanging out by the timer ramp and a big white truck most of the day Saterday? Those are some GREAT trophies you made that Fluitt posted a picture of on the slalom forum. Later-Paul Howard
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RTS Offset?
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On 1/12/2005
WT
wrote in from
United States
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Dave,
Not to argue, but do you mean TRACKER'S RTS OFFSET? I'm not aware of Chicken offseting any Trackers, unless it's a one-off that's not readily for sale.
The RTS Offset is manufactured and sold by Tracker, not a third party.
I'm only asking because I don't want Tom T getting confused about where to find what.
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Offsets for Bill
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On 1/12/2005 Dave A
wrote in from
United States
(67.168.nnn.nnn)
My son and I have similar setup slalom
boards but he has PPS rts offset and I
have PPS Indy offset and I can't feel
much difference. Maybe a faster racer
than me could.
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Garage raging
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On 1/11/2005
Mark Johnson
wrote in from
United States
(68.124.nnn.nnn)
There are only 3 racing slots left for the parking garage race Sunday January 23 2005
email me if you would like to enter: Go to link (last post)below for more info!
Dont miss it
Mike M when are you coming up? keep me posted so we can set up a race when you are in town.
MJ
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Garage racing is not over! Let the carnage continue
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On 1/10/2005
Mark Johnson
wrote in from
United States
(68.124.nnn.nnn)
Outlaw Garage racing series Info 2005
Entrance fee $1.00 per heat, winner takes all!per heat
Riding rules:
1. No foot pushing after designated line
2. No grabbing
3 No other rules. Anything goes !
Series and Points for prizes
Racing starts at scheduled time, get as many races in as we can. Pick your best 5 races per night for point total.
1 TO 2 races per month for 4 month, best 3races count for over all points. Prizes awarded to riders with the most points at the end of series.
1st = 1 1points
2nd = 7 points
3rd = 4 points
4th= 2 points
5th-7th= 1 point
8th- X = 0 points
Parking Garage Schedule:
For the month of January 2005
January 23 2005 email me for exact time and location
Meet at Workhouse Recording Studio: 1/2 hour before race time
For directions: go to my recording studio web address (listed below) and click on directions
Studio web address: Click here for link
My business phone # 408 287 1843 call any time
Entrance fee $1.00 per heat winner takes all
{5 people enter winner wins $5.00}
SPONSORS: you guy's keep the fun Rolling
So far we have: Randal Design, Loaded Decks, Khiro skateboard products, Red Clay, and hopefully, more in the future
There will be a video crew for new surf and skate video, shooting some events.
Riders
We have interest from Northern California’s best riders and more, here is a list of riders signed up to come to one or more races this series.
Here is a list of Gladiators Sponsored by:
1. Mico Biffle Bill’s Wheels Ick sticks
2. Justin Ice Loaded Decks
3 Flavien Vidal (frenchie)
4. Eli Smouse Comet Bomb Squad
5. Patrick Rizzo Comet Bomb Squad
6. Mathew Schreiber
7. Clayton Scott Comet Bomb Squad
8. Steven Wu
9. Don Fisher
10. David Price CometBombSquad
11. Hung Chang (H.C)
12. JM Comet Bomb Squad
13. Mark Johnson Randal Design
14. Mario Croft
15. Cliff Coleman Gravity sk8boards
16. Hugh Rigatoni
17. Mike Maysey to many to list
18. Myrran
19. Gary Holl to many to list
20. Josh Zinman
21. Shane
22. Jumbo
23. Marisa
23. Nick Crest
24. Rich Stevens
25. Cory
26. Ryian
27. B.J
for more info
GO TO: Click here for link
Let the carnage continue
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