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Mo Matt
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On 7/27/2004 North Carolina Longboarder
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How is the injury? Was suppose to be a question. Sorry.
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Mo Matt
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On 7/27/2004
North Carolina Longboarder
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MO MATT! How is it going? How is the injury! Great to see you posting again!
Roll on Brothers and Sisters! Roll on Roll on!
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Buddy's Oki
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On 7/27/2004 MissouriMatt
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Going to the 68mm may be enough to avoid the bite. I was just barely getting contact with the 70mm and had extra room with 65mm, but when you're carving hard with a little speed and reaching down the hill.. or coming off a wall at the park.. that's not a good time for bite. One thing about the Torsion design is you'll know where they stop, you can max it out by getting all your weight on one wheel and rolling slowly forward, if you don't have bite, you won't have bite. They turn to a point and then stop.
They ride a little higher than most trucks, so it's nice to avoid risers if you can. You won't need risers for the turning geometry. Those trucks will turn... but I've never tried risers with 'em, so what do I know?? Hope to read more about your fun with the new board and get your thoughts on the torsion ride.
Many great times carving ahead. Ride on.
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torsion trucks
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On 7/27/2004 buddy rawls
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I was definitely with you on the wheelbite issue. I have already tooled me up some 1/2" risers out of wood, in case it is a problem. I am either going to stick with my old 70mm reds, or get some 70mm flashbacks 81a, or some 68mm 3DM 80a. regardless the clears are coming off when I unpack, I want some personality on it.
I assume the torsion trucks geometry will respond to angled risers for tweaking the turning geometry, its all geometry, so it should work the same.
I am jazzed about getting a board, I have never even road one, except for downhill in the 70's, with steel bushings and stuff. definitely no carving stuff. It may be blast to get a long board to turn so sharp and hard.
thansk for input
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Torsion ride
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On 7/26/2004 MissouriMatt
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Buddy rawls,
The best I can remember, I’ve been riding primarily Torsion trucks since 1997 or ’98. I love the way they ride. During that time I’ve put them on three different dirtboards, kickflippers and a variety of longboards. I think about 12 different deck styles in all. The closest thing to the Peggy Oki that I put them on is probably the freeride bowlrider. I would guess the bowlrider is a bit more concave and an inch or so longer, fat tail and five inch nose. Here are a few observations.
I don’t think the wheelbase will be as big an issue as the wheel wells.
You may need to keep your wheels down to 65mm or less. The torsions need a lot of wheel well and you probably don’t want to mess with peggy’s shape by grinding out some extra room. I put some 70mm power paws on my bowlrider and got wheel bite. I eventually gave my bowlrider to a friend because it was the shape he was looking for and I like 70mm and up for wheels. I like flat decks with longer wheelbase, so it wasn’t just the wheel bite issue that caused me to let the board go.
I loaned the bowlrider/torsion setup to another friend for quite a while and he shredded the park with it. His ridding style was well suited to this deck/truck combo. He didn’t mind the Torsion height and made good use of the tail and concave. He was getting big airs, long grinds and carving hard off the wall, pumping for speed out of the transitions. I think pumping out of the transition is one of the many torsion strengths. He had been riding exclusively shortboards and liked the bowlrider much better than the other decks I had him try with Torsions.
As the wheel base gets shorter the trucks get more sensitive to the deck’s concave. The Xtreme Wheelz 36” dirtboard, set with 65mm kryps and Torsion trucks was a freaky ride. Lots of concave, short wheel base for torsions and double kicktail. It could turn an incredibly tight radius and ride on the two wheels on the inside of the carve. I could even work a one wheel wheelie by carving very hard with my weight all up front or all to the back. It was a stiff deck with a supper springy feel to the trucks. The concave and short wheel base seemed to add to the feeling of height, which I eventually decided I didn’t like. The 36” now has tracker B-2’s and is ridden by my son.
My preference for the torsion truck is 38” and up, flat decks with max wheel base and max wheel well. A setup like that gives a very fluid carve and has a lot of spring back to center in and out of turns. I’ve made 7 decks myself just to fit the torsion ride, including a 42” dirtboard that allows for 112mm wheels with out risers (or the 99.5mm slicks – both sick!) Some people don’t like the return to center, but I love it. I think the Torsion trucks work better for riders in the 170 pound and up range. It takes a little weight to get the leverage you need. I like the torsions best on my 44” freeride crosstown (11 ply birch, flat, no tail or nose). With the 70mm 74a flashbacks and good bearings it’s a smooth carving ride.
Let me know what you think when the trucks get there.
Hope you love ‘em as much as I do. If not, try ‘em on something flatter with lots of wheel well and wheel base.
Matt
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longboards and truck selection
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On 7/26/2004 buddy rawls
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I skate a lot and have since the mid 70's, but never longboarded, except the waterski hill stuff we did in the 70's. I just purchased that peggy oki barfoot complete (I love the shape length and rocker design design). I have since started looking into these torsion trucks and seeing that they turn terrifically sharp (I have not recieved the board yet). I am used to 10x30 pigs with gullwing pros (exclusively) on a 16-17" wheelbase, which make for a very lazy turning radius. it fits the way I skate in bowls and stuff and I have skated them since 78. My question is this, are these torsion trucks too much for the 'shorter' style longboard, or will they be right at home on mild hill bombing excursions (30 mph and less). redrilling for a conventional truck is a non issue, I have done that for years, but I just wanted some thoughts on if the torsion trucks are really too reactive for a such a short longboard (38")
Buddy
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sliding wheels
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On 7/23/2004 hc
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An often asked question.
There is no such thing as best..
It depends on preference of traction, slide distance, steepness of the hill, surface, ride quality, etc.
Hard wheels rides rough and slow, but slides far and lasts longer.
I got a list of wheels on my sliding page.
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Sliding wheels for longboard
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On 7/23/2004 JP
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I know this may not be the best forum for this question, but what the heck . . . what do you think are the best wheels duro and size for sliding on a longboard? 70 - 76mm with a duro of 85A - ??
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Bozi Deliveries
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On 7/22/2004 North Carolina Longboarder
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It took me a while to get mine. He apparently was/is very back-up. As I have said before it was worth the wait...but I know it sucks waiting.
Roll on Roll on!
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sliding
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On 7/22/2004 henry
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ss,
i learned to coleman slide on a short board. hc's site (http://www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/) is a good resource for sliding technique. I still find it hard to do slides on my longboard, i just don't reach speeds where i could throw them down easily. For speed control on the mostly mellow hills in my area i do standing slides. You'll find a detailed description of how to do them on SurfaceMotion.com. Hope that helps.
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not yet
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On 7/22/2004
tom meakin
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nope, my bozi order form the 2nd of June isnt here yet, i think he really must have got backlogged. If anyone from around my time of order has theirs yet, could they mail me? email addy given :) i sooo want to ride also.... my slalom board just wont go over 25 mph and i want to fly ....
tom meakin
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Bozi deliveries?
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On 7/22/2004
spufman
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Just wondering if people have started receiving their Bozi orders that were apparently a little back-logged. I'm coming up on six weeks for my MB2/Randal/Avila customized setup and while I can wait for what I know will be an incredible board, I'm aching to carve!
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Corey Rubin....
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On 7/21/2004 ss
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...which one did you get?
Can you tell us a little more about it?
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Thanks...
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On 7/21/2004 ss
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Thanks NCL great reviews...very helpful.
Any tips on learning to slide with slide gloves?
I think that I need harder wheels or I have to go a lot faster
because my wheels don't want to break traciton.
Even with my super turny original trucks.
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Longboard info
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On 7/21/2004 Corey Rubin
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I love my new longboard!
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Randalls and Seismic Comparison/Update On Bozi Set Up
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On 7/21/2004
North Carolina Longboarder
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SS: I have Randall R II's on a two of my boards other than the Bozi and I love them. They are great for carving and are good at higher speeds. The seimics took some getting use to because I had never ridden a setup where the front truck turned more than the rear (45 degree front and 30 degree rear). After riding the Bozi a while now I do like these trucks a great deal. It may be a mental thing but they seem a great deal more stable at higher speeds. They carve well too. I know there is alot of people who are either Randall fans or Seimic fans and totally hate the other choice but I like them both. For general carving and cruising I like the Randalls. For bombing sections with big fast turns I like the Seismics.
Roll on Roll on! Brothers and Sisters! Roll on on Randalls or Seimics or both!
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Bozi Slide Gloves
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On 7/21/2004
North Carolina Longboarder
wrote in from
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SS: The Bozi slide gloves took a little getting use to. I had made my own before buying these and the "palm puck" piece is a lot larger and thicker that what I had used. It makes board pick up a little hard at first but once I got use to it it was ok. From a sliding perspective they are awesome. The puck is a very hard durable piece that has not shed much from use. It does powder up a bit but that is no big deal. The material is fairly slick and at first on a backside slide I have had a couple of situations where I over extended and basically busted my ass because my hand slid out from under me. Dude, this was not a problem with the glove. This was totally operator error! The adhesive that holds the puck to the palm is some major stuff and there has been absolutely no seperation even when I have hung the bottom of the puck twice on a curb really hard. They are great for rubbing off speed in a hard high speed carve.
Roll on Brothers and Sisters! Roll on Roll on...Sliding and slipping.
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Night Riding Rules
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On 7/21/2004
North Carolina Longboarder
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GFlash: Thanks for the props dude! Yeah, I forgot the reflective clothing...and I do take my phone with me. One other thing that I do is I always wave at the police cars as they ride by...most of the ones in town know me now. I have heard that they all think I am crazy.
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Fellow Rookie Longboard
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On 7/21/2004
G-flash
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Check in on this great site everyday and you will be enlightend as to what the bros and sistas of the longboard community are doing! You will find tips on safety,board set-ups, and techniques used to implement style!By the way , we are not some buy in club like Harley dudes who are looking to belong to a group.We sometimes skate alone,with buds or compete in different catagories.The road rash that you will sooner or later will incur will help you meet our initiation to get you out of rookie status.This road rash should occur somewhere over 35mph in order to meet specific guidelines. On this site you also learn how to do supermans with style and grace then post your crash to share the laugh and joy of sk8ing with your new family of longboaders!Now go ROLL ROOKIE ROLL!!!
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Rookie Longboarder Looking for Tips on Riding and Equipment
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On 7/20/2004
rookie_boarder
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Hey all. I'm not even sure if this is the right place to post this, but: I'm a brand new longboarder; just got a Sector 9 Luke Nosewalker on the recommendation of a friend. Anyway, I'm looking for general riding tips (carving, stopping) as well as general equipment and maintenance tips. Anyone know of any good websites I can check out?
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NCL Safety Rules to LIVE by.
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On 7/20/2004
G-Flash
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Right on brah! Thanks for the proper guidelines to follow. We must observe all that you mentioned so we can skate well into our golden years! The only two things I can add is to carry a cell and wear something lumincent or reflective when sk8ting at nite.Much love to all my longboard brothers and sisters.
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LOngboard events at Checkersseries.com
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On 7/20/2004
John Dillon,Team Fun
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This past wknd's longboard street and bowl events at Vans
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Bozi Slide Gloves...
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On 7/20/2004 ss
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NCL - you mentioned awhile back that you had ordered these. Did you get them? And if so, how are they? Could you give us a quick review?
Also, I know that you have seismics on your Bozi. Have you ridden Randal R2's, and if so, could you compare and contrast them for me/us? Thanks!
Any updates on your Bozi/seismic/3dm review?
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Night Riding Rules For Me
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On 7/20/2004
North Carolina Longboarder
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As I have posted multiple times almost all of my riding these days are at night. Here is the list of rules I try to go by to help keep my wife from collecting that big ass lottery ticket called a Life Insurance Policy.
1. Always wear a helmet (I always wear knee pads, elbow pads, and gloves too)
2. Pre-walk the run from bottom to top clearing any obvious rocks, sticks, etc. and making a note of cracks, manholes, sketchy sidewalk/drive transitions, holes. I do this even if I have run the route a hundred times. Things change.
3. Never run a blind intersection without a spotter..Period. (yeah, I know this takes the "thrill" out of it, but I have been a hood ornament before on a bicycle and it sucks. I often have to be my own "Dad" telling me "NO, NO, NO!")
4. Assess traffic levels and note every access point for traffic to the section you are going to ride.
5. Ride where there is at least ample enough street lighting to see. ( I guess this should go without saying but hey, there have been runs I am so tempted to make that have a section that is way too dark to risk).
6. Leave a note for your family/wife/signficant other letting them know where you are skating (I have a set of index cards that I have all my usual skates spots described on and I leave the one describing where I am at on the kitchen counter before I walk out the door. I started this for my cycling routes and actually am in the process of publishing a local ride guide for the bike shops in the area from the cards)...(its more difficult for your wife to collect the life insurance if they can't find your body).
This is basically how I try to keep myself relatively safe. If I drive to a spot to skate I always keep a first aid kit in my truck. Yeah, I know what many of you are thinking "What a freakin' wussy" but I plan on raising my children until they are grown and gone and then I will think about self destruction.
Roll on Brothers and Sisters! Roll on Roll on.
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Flux Lighted Risers
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On 7/20/2004
North Carolina Longboarder
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I have a green Flux lighted riser pad on the front of my OTS Winged Wonder 58" Longboard from Wicked Skateboards. I think they probably help cars see me a little better but I don't think they are bright enough to make a huge difference on seeing obstacles (rocks cracks sticks, etc ) in the road. My youngest daughter says it looks like I am riding a lazer beam when I am coming down the road and I think thats cool. I just cut them on when I make a run. I don't think they actually help much seeing.
Roll on brothers and sisters! Roll on Roll on! Fluxicity or not!
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