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LDP trucks
On 7/8/2006 Marc wrote in from (71.231.nnn.nnn)

What do you all think of randal 2's or seismics for LDP?

 
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ldp board
On 7/6/2006 tarin wrote in from Denmark  (80.198.nnn.nnn)

ive just ordered a roe ldp board myself, and a wee birdie sent me old cx trucks gratis, pro bono! im having a great time riding them around and its so much easier to ride against the wind and up inclines now!

 
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LDP vs Crossfire
On 7/6/2006 Ravn / Dominik wrote in from Germany  (195.37.nnn.nnn)

Hey all,
Hey peters, thanks for the warm welcome. Maybe you can help me:

I have finally decided to get myself a Roe LDP now (oh, the decision was not so hard. I'm totally hooked).

A friend of mine is considering to also get a Roe deck for distance pumping, but he is hesitating as to whether he should get an LDP deck or one of those long Crossfires. Could you tell us where the main differences are? Do you have enough space for your front foot on a Crossfire, or will your toes hang? Have you used the crossfire or both for LDP? What's your impression?

Thanks in advance, Ravn

 
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distance ride through seattle
On 7/4/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)

Here's the tentative route for later in the day on the 5th. Trevor's taking more time in Chehalis to recoup but hopes to get through Tacoma tomorrow by noon.

http://www.wayfaring.com/maps/show/19719

He would likely hit the Interurban somewhere around Federal Way up to Burke through North Seattle from 3 or 4 p.m. on the 5th (Weds) until dark ---any local takers, drop in on the trail!

p.s. Kris, sent you some hardware info...

 
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'Who likes long bolts.....we like long bolts!'
On 7/4/2006 Munchh wrote in from United Kingdom  (86.138.nnn.nnn)

Hey LDP'ers,

long time....hope your all well?

I've found the best place over here for bolts is car factors, i'm asuming you get the same sort of thing over your side of the water, here they sell patent parts for cars, tools for mechanics and bolts for car mantainance, aswell as many other auto related stuff, the one i'm using is able to get me 'M5'(this is the thickness or thread size), countersunk allen key bolts, (the call them socket head) in steel or even stainless, from 40mm/ 1 1/2" anything upto 80mm/ 3 1/4" (or bigger) long, they are much cheaper as they sell them in singles, they also carry the 'nylock' nuts.

The hardware or D.I.Y. places only seem to have slot or cross head and are never the same quality as the auto trade use.

Since finding i'm wedging alot for slalom and LDP, i've been thinking of selling on e-bay, as there doesn't seem to be anyone skate related doing them long enough for the 1" of riser + deck + truck base plate we all seem to need???

I hope this helps.

 
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roe ldp
On 7/3/2006 Erin wrote in from United States  (72.235.nnn.nnn)

I actually like to wedge my CX's on the front and dewedge slightly on the rear. As for hardware, I get most of mine a fastener wholesale place.

Have fun with the new board!

 
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settin' up the Roe LDP
On 7/3/2006 Kris wrote in from United States  (71.128.nnn.nnn)

Happy/proud to say I ordered a Roe LDP deck today. I will be setting it up with Carver CX trucks (the front & rear combo) and Avilas- 77a in the front and 73a in the rear.

My questions are about the riser pads. My understanding for the front is 1.5" plus a shock pad, no angled wedging. Is this correct. For the rear, I know I should de-wedge, but how much?...One single 1/2 inch angled riser? 2 of them? And should I use a shock pad?

Also, any tips on hardware? Where can I find bolts long enough? Skateshop or the hardware store?

Thanks in advance.

 
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seattle distance ride on the 4th!
On 7/2/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (172.194.nnn.nnn)

The Astoria bridge was a no-go, so Trevor was forced to shoot down to the Longview bridge and still made great time, he's in Centralia tonight, and will stay either in Tacoma or North Seattle tomorrow night, depending on whether his legs are cookin or not. Either way it looks like a 4th of July ride with him on some Seattle/north-of-Seattle stretch, anyone who's game for riding alongside a short stint drop a line!! pavedwave@comcast.net

 
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mexico to canada progress
On 7/1/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (172.194.nnn.nnn)

update on Trevor doing the Mex-to-Canada trip -- he's making great time and expecting to be rolling through Seattle July 4th! drop a line if you can push or pump a few miles...

 
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in beat weiner
On 7/1/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (172.194.nnn.nnn)

We'll be doing a lot of weekenders and keep you updated -- to keep on the 'ride' list just shoot a mail to pavedwave@comcast.net -- hoping to work a Vanc BC trip in as well! The one in-betweener "event" we were talking about was originally July 15/16 but if it happens I think it will be late July or mid-August now. Keep in touch!

 
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In-betweener idea
On 6/29/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

How about the weekend before the MS skate, an 'inbetweener'. Could be on the Centennial Trail. And preferrably not a totaly crack-o-dawn start time.

 
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Inbetweener
On 6/29/2006 Marc wrote in from (71.231.nnn.nnn)

There was talk of a LDP event in between the solstice and the MS skate. Any word on when?

 
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ms skate - last early registration spam
On 6/29/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)

spam is good. its salty and it makes you want to drink more beer.

registration by June 30th is $35, goes up after that!

http://www.active.com/event_detail.cfm?event_id=1339955

Ravn - berlin weather sounds a lot like seattle, we never know how it'll turn out but in general the summers are perfect. when its nice its realllly nice here. the MS Skate happens rain or shine - although its usually been nice that weekend! if its not, we'll all pull our bearings out at the end and throw 'em in a jar of motor oil :-)

 
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Re: skate berlin
On 6/28/2006 Ravn wrote in from Germany  (195.37.nnn.nnn)

Be all very welcome.. Berlin is good all year round, spring or summer is probably the safest bet for skating - the climate is semi-continental, i.e. rather dry, with moderate temperatures around 0°C in winter and 25°C in summer. The weather is usually quite stable for periods of several days (applies to rain, sunshine and murky weather equally). But you cannot really predict if its dry or wet at any given time. Highest elevation in the area is 115m.

@tarin: That's nice to know that there are some LDPers so close by.. Send me a mail when you come to Berlin. Did you know that there is even a bike trail from Copenhagen to Berlin? Unfortunately it's declared that it is not paved all the way, but I usually skate up and down the last bit for training.

 
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marathon v sprint
On 6/27/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)

PMG, as for the slalom and LDP, two different worlds, but very symbiotic. If you're really into targeting your racing game, I'd definately get disciplined on as many challenging offset and tight courses as possible, and as fast as possible -- i.e., ride with people faster than you and use a timer. I don't train for slalom to be heavily competitive, its more for the brotherhood and having fun. Have learned a TON about the right gear and many pumping forms from it, but there are definately pumps that are new discoveries to LDP. I round slalom out with downhill carving, bombing, pool shredding, skurfing and boardwalking -- but the vast majority of my time commuting and pumping trails. The turns on un-coned trails don't have to be so precise, but still very rhythmic and GROOVY. Like Derek said its training for a whole different set of muscles. The one benefit that LDP carries over to slalom is I can keep running up the hill all day and keep charging it, where most of the slalom crew is done after a few hours. But if perfecting the perfect line through the cones and precision turns is really your end goal, keep running cones, clean!! (and fast will follow)


p.s. -- Just heard from Trevor a.k.a. "deciduoustea" he's in Newport OR right now! Ya know, all these benefits-- Cornwaithe's ride across Australia, Push for the Cure, etc.. I really dig it -- and I'd love to quit my Dilbert job and do 'em, but what I can feasibly manage are the weekend-warrior charity rides so I'll have to stay local most the time and support and cheer on you lucky young punks with the pre-family scheduling freedoms!! ROCK ON!!!

 
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ldp excursions
On 6/27/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)

Trying to catch up after a screaming downhill weekend in Salem, would be great to see even half of these worldly LDP plans come together!! I'm sure the family would be into Euro vacation but depends heavily on funding. I'm planning a 3-week December excur$ion to Tokyo and will hook up with Adam and whoever else from outdoorjapan, and some Murasaki guys, to pump the Tama River trail and freak out the natives. Japan, anyone!?

Ravn cool to see you here! With an LDP nirvana in your backyard you must be getting in really decent shape. Hopefully you can try out some snappy light deck, I think you'll find a whole new source of power with programmed flex. Gareth and I carved up the slalom hill in Salem this weekend on the latest PS38" Crossfire -- it ripped!! Tried it with Holeys for just carving and the SplitFire trucks for pumping speed down the hill. The Holeys are really wide for long surfy carves, gotta test them more I suppose... I'm getting spoiled with the loose and responsive SplitFires, point the nose and quickly shoots carves in that direction.



I still favor forward stance for pumping medium speeds and uphills, but its when moving fast that the flex from the center of the deck really returns energy and speeds up every pump. I start up front, then slide stance toward the back as the ride progresses and accelerates, pump the deck harder in the middle, then forward again, back again-- with the tunes on its almost like a meditation 2-3 hours a day. I find getting dialed into your music the most important, relaxing thing - the swinging arms, your foot arches, stance, cadence -- all takes care of itself.

 
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pump around the world...
On 6/27/2006 eric wrote in from (71.233.nnn.nnn)

hmm..what if someone organized a pump around the world for charity tour? just a thought.

 
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wow
On 6/27/2006 tarin wrote in from Denmark  (82.143.nnn.nnn)

that looks amazing! ravn, im gonna come down and check it out one of these days.. berlin is such a short distance from copenhagen!

if there's a ldp tour next spring or summer, you guys should make sure to pass through here as well.

 
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ldp tour
On 6/27/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

We should really plan our 1st annual ldp tour for this destination. Yes, Spring or Summer 2007!

 
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skate berlin
On 6/27/2006 derek wrote in from United States  (24.16.nnn.nnn)

good god-
that looks like heaven!
i have to come over there and check that trail out. it sounds absolutely amazing. what time of the year is the best time to visit over there? this could be a blast of a ride in spring or summer of 2007...

 
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lost link
On 6/27/2006 Ravn wrote in from Germany  (83.121.nnn.nnn)

Hmm.. the board ate the first link in my message - sorry:
Click here for link, English summary available but unfortunately not linkable. Just click on the small US/UK flag on the main page.

 
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skate track
On 6/27/2006 Ravn wrote in from Germany  (83.121.nnn.nnn)

I thought the world cup has been in Are this year.. oh, I see, you're talking of soccer now. ;) You can have that world up, if I am to keep the trail.
If anyone of you happen to be in Berlin sometime, don't forget your LDP board and visit
Click here for link - PDF map overview of the trails
Oh, and drop me a note when you do.. I'd like to join in. :)

I've just done two of the small circle tracks today, but it's so amazing. (I couldn't stop after the first one and got foot-ache in the second) The asphalt has been specifically designed for skate wheels.. it's like flying through the summer fields.

What did I notice..? I still think that the board could have a lighter tail. I think that my foot-ache results partly from hauling that heavy tail around.. (besides being generally an unusual movement.) I alternated stances, and still prefer to stand quite far in front. And a few arm movements just came in naturally when climbing hills. But that's probably all old news for you.. ;)

I think I need to try another deck sometime..

(thanks, Marc.)

 
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97 km of butter smooth pavement!!!
On 6/27/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

97 km of butter smooth ashphalt, no cars. Wow, that'd make it worth taking a trip over to you neck of the woods Ravn!

 
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biltin bearings?
On 6/27/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

yay or nay for ldp? Do they make any difference?

 
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Ravn
On 6/27/2006 Marc wrote in from (71.231.nnn.nnn)

If you need the tierney bushings give Kurt Tierney a call and he will send you some. As for the weight of the tierney, the deck is light. What is heavy is those MONSTER wheels.

 
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