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How to Pump
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On 9/5/2006
Alan
wrote in from
United States
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Hey, I was wondering if there were any videos on how to pump, been reading all the guides and they help a lot, and I think I can kind of do it, but any videos that really show pumping well or if anyone is on Oahu and wouldn't mind a pumping training session I'll buy you lunch.
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abs not sore?
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On 9/1/2006 mark
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Hey guys, I think I got the hang of this thing. But, I remeber reading posts about people with sore abs. The only thing that gets sore for me are my feet, and maybe the left side of my left hip. And the feet soreness depend on my stance and tempo (whether I'm twising or pushing out). Primarily from tilting the board back and forth trying to accelerate for uphills and against the wind.
What're y'all doing to work those abs? Maybe my abs are already too powerful? Yes that must be it. :)
I have a feeling I'm missing an important gear.
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New LDP Prototype
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On 8/28/2006
lonerider
wrote in from
United States
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Hey peters, I saw you posted a photo of your new Roe LDP protoype, I love it's lines, hopefully it's as functional as the "current" Roe LDP. Have you been able to do some test runs on it yet?
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How-to-Pump update
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On 8/23/2006
Daniel Gesmer
wrote in from
United States
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Derek and Peters, many thanks for your very kind remarks! Please feel free to circulate the PDF as much as you wish.
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how to pump
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On 8/23/2006
derek
wrote in from
United States
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dan-
that's beautiful!
nice work on the PDF. thanks for laying it all out like that. i dig the way you think- your ideas and products just keep getting better and better.
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How To Pump update
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On 8/22/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
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Dan thats a sharp lookin update. Nicely crafted, boiled down to the essentials. I always point people to your original essay link, when talking through the complicated physics or especially starting to explain in text form, it feels like just re-inventing the wheel -- this PDF is The Wheel!
And with the new pics, could be a future in Gesmer desktop themes...
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How-to-Pump article by Daniel Gesmer
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On 8/22/2006
Daniel Gesmer
wrote in from
United States
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For a recent issue of Naphte (the bilingual longboard magazine published in Montreal for which I serve as Senior Editor), I completely re-edited and updated my 1989 "how to pump" article.
A PDF version of the Naphte article (including photographs and diagrams) is now available for free download by clicking on the button towards the upper right of this page.
This is a substantial improvement, so I encourage anyone who liked the original 1989 version to check it out.
Many thanks to Webmaster Adam for setting up the link!
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james' fatboy
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On 8/19/2006 derek
wrote in from
United States
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that think looks like a samurai sword.
nice work on that board jp- and good job pumping that thing to a 3:58 mile in the wee hours of the morning...
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Assym 41.5
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On 8/18/2006 peters
wrote in from
United States
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Here's the latest, a fun, pretty stiff 'boo deck from Fatboy and I'm diggin on it!
Commuted it the other day, playing with foot placements and tweakin' the brain. Testing it on Cyber Mile tomorrow 6 a.m. at Redmond Velodrome, Stryker and Munson will be there, any other locals game!?
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thanks
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On 8/18/2006 clem
wrote in from
United States
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hey peters, thanks so much for the info!
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wheelz and cx
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On 8/18/2006 peters
wrote in from
United States
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clem i moved up from 65/70 mm sized wheels to 75/76 mm, but only after getting really comfortable pumping smaller ones consistently and building up to longer distances. for quick slalom runs I still use 66mm and sometimes 62mm cambrias, but for a trail pump of any significant distance I bump that way up. you'll find the smaller ones to have a lot more "pick up" right off the line and easier to climb hills, but you'll know to increase wheel size once you feel like you're pumping at max speed all the time, and start jonesin' to maintain a faster pace.
kris - that's crazy what happened to you man!! glad you're okay. you can get the single CX front at solidskate
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CX front truck?
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On 8/18/2006 Kris
wrote in from
United States
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Anyone know of an online vendor that sells just the front CX truck?
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Wheel size for pumping
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On 8/17/2006 Clem
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United States
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Hey guys, i just "upgraded" from 65mm 82a wheels to 70mm 78a wheels. it seems like i go slower when pumping with the bigger wheels. is it cuz i AM going slower (as a result of it being harder to pump with big wheels?) i have original trucks and a 35" board.
i'm definitely having a higher top speed when i'm kicking off with my foot regularly.
by the way.. where i live, there are like..no hills. so yeah. flatland pumping is what i just learned to do :]
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Ravns CX
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On 8/17/2006 peters
wrote in from
United States
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Greg, its a carver CX - the hangar swivels behind the kingpin.
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Ravn your truck is on backwards!!!
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On 8/17/2006 GregOlsen
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Canada
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Ravn,
How on earth do you skate with your truck on backwards??!!
Note the roadside sign and skate in front a few posts back.
Greg
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wedge link
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On 8/17/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
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Here's C-block foam wedges off the sk8kings site... WEDGES
the rolls bearings are same as any other, but a couple years ago I was testing some sealed german made bearings they sent over that seemed to hold up a little longer. but in the end, sealed or unsealed, water's going to get in there, so maybe the open/exposed thing is the way to go.
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rain riding
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On 8/17/2006
tarin
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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im thinking of getting some snowskate grip tape - have been looking online for it, and seems there's this company, fuse, that makes a foam 'grip tape' thats suitable for winter conditions. now im looking online for the pps foam blocks too.
how does the rollsrolls wheel/bearing system deal with puddles?
i use clear bike chain lubricant with ptfe to blow out my bearings. i think that works okay.
derik - are open bearings different kinds? presumably, you cant just take the shields off the bearings.. you have to get a kind that doesnt require a shield? where does he get those?
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rain, wedgeys, etc
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On 8/16/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
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Tarin you can see both top and side views of the PPS (pocket pistols skates) foam wedge in pics below -- these are angled chunks of foam with adhesive on one side, stick them to the board wherever you want customized concave, then lay the grip tape on top of 'em, and trim the excess. Considering how much personal preferences for concave vary, its one of the best, simple ideas around.
The motor oil's a bit extreme, and I only tried that last season, just took them out then let the excess oil drain on a paper towel, then after mounting the wheels I use trumpet valve oil which kinda dilutes the goopy stuff. Just read on SF forum how people put their wet gunky bearings in paint thinner to clean, then in rubbing alcohol to remove the paint thinner, and finally a light oil... I'll probably be trying that a lot this year.
The thing I like about the rollsrolls is that it can plow through puddles and the carbon fiber never gets damaged being completely submerged. Besides the fact its feather light. But all-carbon fiber decks do lack a little 'love' which is why for the main axe I prefer the birch core+triaxial+CF of the Roe. As for surfboards they can definately take on damage whenever the outer shell is cracked, once water gets in, the foam takes on some of the moisture and eventually you'll have a heavier board with a lot of discolored spots...
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new to pumping
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On 8/16/2006 brendan
wrote in from
United States
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I've got Venture Featherlites, comlete with worn out/shredded bushings, on it right now, pretty wide I think, it's been about ten years since I bought the set-up, I don't remember. Wasting time at work, so I can't measure them right now. I'm riding on old 70mm Kryptos and some old noisy bearings. Ha!
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rain riding
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On 8/16/2006 Derik
wrote in from
Germany
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I avoid riding in the rain, but a skater here in hamburg, who does, rides open bearings, so they can dry fast and can be oiled without popping them out - I don't know if it works.
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rain riding
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On 8/15/2006
tarin
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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james,
whats a pps wedge?
doesnt motor oil make your bearings yucky? i thought i was supposed to avoid motor oil and use non grease lubricants (like bike chain lubricant).
are there any other advantages to an all-carbon fibre deck besides water resistance? and how do surfers, who use wooden boards, make it so their boards arent ruined by being in the ocean?
copenhagen rains a lot, almost as much as scotland did. if i had to pop my bearings out after every ride, that would be a lot of work. no way i can avoid riding in the rain too. but i dont want to ruin my gear either.
that flaeming skate place looks awesome. berlin is half a day's hitch (or an hour cheap flight) away, i really should get down there sometime soon.
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rain riding
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On 8/15/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
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Tarin, this toe stop + PPS wedge combo helps lock your foot in place, but I don't ride rain as much these days as it eats up bearings and wood decks (besides being generally sketchy!) However as fall rolls in, I will be training a bit more in it, with an all-carbon fiber deck just to get used to the sliding. Just gotta remember to toss the bearings in a cup of motor oil right afterward...as far as bearings for rain? As cheap as possible.
...and welcome Brendan! The Powell's a great, durable and versatile deck. What kinda trucks you using? Check this page out for some other gear ideas.
Derik, Ravn... I might have to start talking my family into a German trip as well now, along with Derek. At first I thought it would be impossible but if I can tie in a slalom day and a family visit, it might start coming together. That Flaeming place looks amazing.
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Very green question. . .
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On 8/15/2006 brendan
wrote in from
United States
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So I just found this website a couple days ago and have found it very informative and inspiring. I do have a newbie questions/sugesstion. What exactly is LDP? My guess from reading posts--long-distance pumping. Yeah? Any pointers on starting out? I'll be on a tight budget, trying to utilize my Powell No Ka Oi, I think it's about 40 something inches long. Also, if at the top of each forum there was a heading with an overview of the contained subje ct it would be great! Thanks for any help!
-brendan
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Flaeming
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On 8/15/2006 Derik
wrote in from
Germany
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from Hamburg, former surf64 at the longboardz forum. (There was to much unrefined tech-drivel and less skating.)
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Re:190 Kilometers for Skaters
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On 8/15/2006 Ravn
wrote in from
Germany
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Thanks Derik,
Are you from the region? I just mentioned the flaeming skate a few pages ago - it is definitely very skateable, I've been there a couple of times now.
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How to Pump