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what is dan geysmer talking about?
On 12/20/2006 jamal wrote in from United States  (71.232.nnn.nnn)

hey, can anyone spare the time to really talk about how to pump? i looked through dan geysmer and it hasnt made much sense yet.. i have a krown pintail. abec 9 and 70mm hard, stock trucks. medium flex. email me if you can really help out..
jahnosha@gmail.com
i'll really appreciate it.
-jamal

 
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yep
On 12/19/2006 kris wrote in from United States  (209.76.nnn.nnn)

yep, smallies worked. im back in bid-ness.

took about a 3 week hiatus from da pump, been working on a couple old school 24" GT BMX cruisers (for me and the missuz). pretty funny- two 30-somethings riding around on dirt bikes. fun as heck though. would like to build up an old 26" if I could find one.

gotta say, the weather has been perrfect for ldp in Sacramento the last couple days. Sunny, dry and cold. I am playing hookie tomorrow and going to hit the river bike trail (off limits to roller, but I'll take my chances). i love being able to "work from home." and bless the cell phone.

 
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Trucks
On 12/14/2006 DR wrote in from United States  (66.13.nnn.nnn)

small

 
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cx cups
On 12/10/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)

Kris, the small tracker-sized cups work on the older CX baseplate i've got, i'd assume they're still the same.

 
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and if so, which size
On 12/5/2006 kris wrote in from United States  (209.76.nnn.nnn)

large or small

 
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pivot cup bushings for Carver CX
On 12/5/2006 Kris wrote in from United States  (209.76.nnn.nnn)

Will the Khiro pivot cup bushings fit as replacements for the stock cup bushing in a Carver CX front truck?

My LDP is currently shelved until I can get new cuppies.

Thanks.

-Kris

 
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Landyachtz dingy
On 12/4/2006 turbo.jesus wrote in from United States  (64.30.nnn.nnn)

how is the dingy for carvin and pumpin? i have a pintail now that is a carve, and i want to start getting into pump boards. the dingy looks really small though. is it good for cruising around and pumping?

 
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split pro
On 12/3/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)

Rick, the pro splits are definately a nice bump up. I think it was 'relatively insignificant upgrade', but more accurately, they're an optimization for something like long distances where your turns aren't always required to be as precise and technical as for slalom. But you can always benefit from extra precision (imagine last-second squirrel dodging, dog lurching at you while owner holds them back by the leash, boulders on the shoulder at 35mph downhill...etc) but that's where I don't go up to a Rad or Gog, there are usually trade-offs at the high end, i.e., fragility for performance. So far the split pro is the highest performance truck I've tested on trails that's incredibly durable as well. I just keep my LDP and GS board fronts mounted with the randal-type baseplate, its easy to swap out the hangars/bushings! If someone were trying to save a few bucks, the earlier rev's are great. I use 107mm's + spacers, as the 90's seem a bit narrow for big wheelbase and longer pump cadence.

 
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split trucks
On 12/3/2006 Rick S wrote in from United States  (12.190.nnn.nnn)

Thanks for the feedback. PSR, while the Fyre trucks look promising, my needs (desires) may not be satisfied by waiting… James, I read in a previous post that you didn’t think the new splitfire pro was LDP oriented. In your opinion is the addition of the spherical bearing a plus, a minus, or a wash for LDP? If it is a minus, which of the older versions was best suited to LDP?
Thanks again for the help!

 
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durable splits
On 12/2/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)

Hey Rick, there are about 15-20 of these concrete 'cattle guards' on my commute, and I haven't yet busted a kingpin on splitfires-- best to approach the gaps at an angle like you're saying. Only when there's too much bike or ped traffic alongside and no choice but to go straight over them at 90 degrees, I compress the deck and hop it.



Stress from rolling over gaps plays heavily into developing fissures, creating pivot point fatigue. I'd just recommend not using more than 5mm spacers on each side of the splitfire hangar, to reduce distance between wheel and hangar and potential for stress on axles.

Since GOGs are very similar to Radikals they're perfect for tight and hybrid race courses, but IMO they're too delicate for the rough stuff, its like riding a Jaguar on a 4-wheel drive course. Even though the ride is like butter, I don't touch them for long distance pumping over rough and predictably bad terrain, based on 1st- and 2nd-hand experience.

 
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Sidewalk trucks
On 12/2/2006 PSR wrote in from United States  (75.68.nnn.nnn)

Rick, wait for the Fyre's to arrive.

 
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the mile
On 12/1/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (64.236.nnn.nnn)

HC it would be really cool to see more times sent in on the cyber mile, with enough interest we could secure a flat venue here next year and do it as part of a larger event! I hear yak on other forums about how the fastest human sprint is 26mph, and how 15mph isn't that fast on a board, yadda yadda, but still hoping more guys get out and actually ride this to spec, and check it out. The fastest push mile so far is Mark G's 4:22. I know an all-out flatland mile is a LOT easier to do on a fingerboard or keyboard ;-)

 
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Durability of split axel trucks?
On 12/1/2006 Rick S wrote in from United States  (12.190.nnn.nnn)

My LDP pump runs usually include at least 3 to 5 miles of cement sidewalks with both wide and uneven expansion joints. I’ve only broken one kingpin so far, and that was years ago on a German seismic. The stress point on the Seismic trucks has been redesigned in the newer versions of that truck, and I haven’t has any problems since. I’d like to try one of the split axel trucks like the split fire or GOG, but I’m concerned about the effect of the constant impacts of the expansion joints. Some of these joints are almost 2 inches wide and others are vertically offset by more than 1 inch. I try to lessen the blow by taking the joints at an angle, but before I spend $130 or more on a new truck I wanted to know if this type of continual abuse would cause the hanger or pivot point to break. Any thoughts?

 
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cyber mile
On 11/28/2006 hc wrote in from United States  (168.149.nnn.nnn)

peters, just checked out that page, some impressive mile times!

curious, what the push mile record would be!

those freeline skates seems like they could be very fast also, no bar between the legs to limit the strokes, yes it's not pumping, more like sideway rollerblading..

 
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swivel vs. pump
On 11/28/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (64.236.nnn.nnn)

hc - maybe that fast snakeboarder dude could post a time up on the cyber mile page? he can hit the start line at full speed as long as its flat. it would be more fun to try in real-time, head to head, of course!

 
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alterskate
On 11/28/2006 hc wrote in from United States  (168.149.nnn.nnn)

someone told me about this board a long time ago, finally I see a pic of it..

It looks to be exactly the same (not in looks but in mechanics) as a snakeboard, or the new dimension streetboard.

I have seen a guy who can pump very fast on the flats with a snakeboard, possibly faster than a skateboarder and he can do it from a standing stop.

 
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alteredstate board
On 11/22/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (64.236.nnn.nnn)

that's funny, its a differently designed snakeboard essentially. swivelling and twisting to propel, but not really 'pumping.' probably fun to tool around on, in the 5--9 mph range??

ravn, great idea on the ldp world maps! i'm going to split the 'events' and the 'rides' page eventually, so it would be great to get pictures/maps that I could add for the updates!

 
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alterskate?
On 11/22/2006 deucesdown wrote in from United States  (74.92.nnn.nnn)

http://www.alterskate.com/

swiveling trucks attached to your feet? skyhooks? Looks crazy and fun. Anyone try this?

 
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Ride height
On 11/14/2006 Alan wrote in from United States  (24.161.nnn.nnn)

Speaking of ride height, I got cx's and gumballs on my board right now, and I still get wheelbite, albeit only when the cx's are super loose. I don't really mind having a high ride height, kinda makes me feel on top of the world more, although it makes eating it a little more painful, and that starting kick a little harder, it makes for a more fun ride I think. Anyone try using super big wheels? like 80+?

 
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hawaii? Aaah.
On 11/14/2006 deucesdown wrote in from United States  (74.92.nnn.nnn)

Longboarding in Hawaii sounds like unbelievable good times. So good that I hit google maps to find Oahu. This may be the incentive to finally get me out there. :)

On another note, I've got a set of 70mm ZigZags coming in, to try to lower my ride height some more. I'm still on the Splitfires, and still thinking about putting the Carvers back.

Anyone pumping Bennetts beside James?

 
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a good long pump
On 11/13/2006 chewy wrote in from Canada  (205.237.nnn.nnn)

in quebec canada 100 miles north of montreal up highway 15. from Labelle to Mont Laurier. an old train track now a bike path...its all train grade hills looong
its paved , quiet and 94km long , 7 feet wide and smooth
i pump till i drop then rest and go back
great parking, water spots and porta poties, all in the wild country of the north laurentien mountains
the trail is called "le petit train du nord" the little train of the north
email for a ride...
laterz

 
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ldp world map
On 11/13/2006 ravn wrote in from Germany  (195.37.nnn.nnn)

It seems to me that we need a long distance pumping world map - with riders' locations and the spots. Or does this exist already? I know of longboarding maps on frappr, we could do the same for LDP specifically. That would be a nice extra to the pavedwave website for example - or here, or anywhere where LDPers gather anyway.

 
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hawaii pumpin and dolphins
On 11/11/2006 tarin wrote in from Denmark  (82.143.nnn.nnn)

alan,

a trip to hawaii is in the works for sometime next year actually.. i use cx's too, and its always fun cruising with another pumper! presumably, there will be dolphins somewhere on the trip too

tarin

 
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Oahu
On 11/10/2006 Alan wrote in from United States  (24.161.nnn.nnn)

Hey guys, anyone know any pumpers on Oahu? I can pump pretty well with carver cx's, but always looking for pointers/people to go cruise with. If you ever come visit Oahu lemme kno haha, we can go ldp the island!

 
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RoeRacing Mermaid
On 11/2/2006 Gareth wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)

Ther Mermaid is not a "custom" and will have its place on the RoeRacing web site soon! Demand for our decks has been overwhelming and we under-estimated the amount of materials we needed for the remainder of the 2007 season. We have another big order of materials on the way and will be building decks in the next couple of weeks. Check the web site for updated ordering information, or send me an e-mail directly at info@roeslalom.com.

I am heading to the Dixie Cup tomorrow with some 2007 RoeRacing "proto-goodies" that we have been testing over the last couple of months - If you are in North Carolina this weekend, you will get a small sneak peak at what we have in store for the 2007 racing season!

I will answer all your e-mails when I return.

Thanks again for your interest!

Sincerely,
Gareth

 
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