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General info Tom
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On 10/27/2005
Tom
wrote in from
United States
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Hi Cliff,
Where is the post for asphalt surfer ? Tried to type it in but got nowhere.
Thanks,
Tom
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Hans
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On 10/27/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Hans,
46" is a bit long for me. However, Fabrice from Canada and many, many others ride boards about that length and do a variety of slides. The hard wheels will take a little time to get used to after riding the softer ones. Take your time with the hard ones until you are comfortable with them. Then try whatever you like one move at a time.
Protect your head when you switch those wheels also! A 34 year old in Santa Cruz, CA just died from a head injury riding in a skate park. It seems he might not have had his helmet strappped properly.
Cliff Coleman
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Sliding on a 46 incher
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On 10/26/2005
Hans
wrote in from
United States
(216.206.nnn.nnn)
Hey Cliff,
I plan on getting a shorter board for sliding for Christmas, but for now I have a s9 46 inch board with a slight kicktail. If I get some Yuppies on that thing will I be able to pull off some nice slides? All I can do now is a 180 with some 78as but I feel the urge to do more. Thanks!
Hans
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Tom
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On 10/26/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Tom,
Check the post to Asphalt Surfer regarding equipment choices.
Regarding slider gloves, I use Timeship gloves. The ones with knuckle protection. There is also lots of information about other companies that make gloves and also information on how to make your own. You will have to do a search or just check Timeshipracing.com
Cliff Coleman
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NYC Asphalt Surfer
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On 10/26/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Asphalt Surfer,
If you live in the City and need to ride cross town for long distances, then you will be better off with a softer wheel. Something between 80a and 85a would work well. These would not be the choice if you want to learn trick slides with spinning 360s etc. If that is the case, try something between 90a and 99a. The hard wheels will not suit the rider who rides for longer distances.
Try trucks a little narrower. About 149 instead of 169. Make sure that the deck and the width of the trucks with wheels mounted matches.
A length of 36" would be nice with a kicktail.
Slider gloves are a must if you don't want to go howm to the family battered and bruised!
Cliff Coleman
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P.S.S. Tom
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On 10/26/2005
Tom
wrote in from
United States
(207.200.nnn.nnn)
Hi Cliff,
Keep up the great work on www.cliffslider.com. Great site !!!
Tom
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General info Tom
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On 10/26/2005
Tom
wrote in from
United States
(207.200.nnn.nnn)
Hi Cliff,
Thank you for your reply. I am 6'1 and weigh 160 lbs.. My longboard is a Big Gun shape with a slight kicktail.I have seen the Falltown vid and found it somewhat useful. To brief. I also need recomdations on gloves as well. I have a set of Spitfire big head softies which are quite hard and small. I really dont like them for as they are so hard. I also have a set of Krypto 65mm classic K's white which are soft but to small I think for my board.
Thank you for your help Cliff,
Tom
P.S.
Any plans for a slide clinic in Colorado??
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Recommended wheels for first time slider...
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On 10/25/2005 NYC Ashpalt Surfer
wrote in from
United States
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I'm 5 foot 11 inches, 135 pounds. I'm and avid longboarder, but I've never tried sliding before. I've got a Powell-Peralta Skull & Sword reissue with Independent 169 trucks and BDS DubCons sitting in my closet collecting dust. I don't want to destroy my softer BDS wheels and I also figure that I will have a miserable time trying to get them to slide.
Anyway, what sliding wheel do you recommend? ABEC-11 No Skoolz -- Powell G-Bones -- Gravity Street G's? What durometer and should I buy a softer duro for the Winter?
I have read that the No-Skoolz are a favorite with some people but I have found them to be quite "grippy" (which is usually a good thing here in NYC!). Among my many boards, I have a Z-Flex pig with 65mm 88a ABEC-11 No-Skoolz that seems to stick to the NYC pavement like glue!
Also, I'm a bit nervous about the Independent trucks getting the speed wobbles. I normally ride Randals, Seismics, or Trackers and haven't had to deal with the "wobs" in quite some time.
I'm sorry for all the questions, but I have a full-time job, a wife, and a son and I don't want to kill myself out there trying to learn how to slide!!!
Thanks in advance for your time and effort...
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gloves
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On 10/25/2005 dan@csu
wrote in from
United States
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if you're looking for sweet gloves, it's hard to beat motion longboard's model. purple skunk sells em. i've had them for a year now and they're awesome. much cheaper than timeships and just as good but without un-needed bells and whistles. replaceable velcroed pucks are cheap and last a long time because they're circular and can be rotated!
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Ethan
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On 10/25/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Ethan,
I don't use Gravity gloves. Its sounds like the plastic that they use from Brazil is not tough enough for you. My gloves are from Timeship Racing. They use durable plastic and have two style to choose from. The ones that I use have knuckle protection and replaceable pads. I don't promote fingerless gloves or wrist guards. Get gloves or make gloves with full finger protection. If you need replacement pucks, order from Mcmaster.com. Using their search window, type in UHMW. That will take you to an order page. Get a one foot square sheet of oil impregnated uhmwpe, ultra high molecular weight polyetheline. Then buy industrial strength velcro and get the sticky back version. Make a few pucks and there you go.
Your slide photo was pure STYLE! Loved it!
Cliff Coleman
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Tom
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On 10/25/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Tom,
I need to know how big or small you are? Does your deck have a kick tail or is it a pin tail? I'd change the trucks to Independent, or something like that. Randals are ok and you might like them? Fill in the details and I'll tell you what I think. Also, check the Faltown web-site. Check out their slide school page.
Cliff Coleman
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Replacements
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On 10/25/2005 Ethan
wrote in from
United States
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yo cliff, i got my half finger gravity gloves like 4 or 5 days ago. and allready i only got like 1/8 or 1/8" left of the puck. i thought gloves lasted longer than that. and i dont see where you can just buy replacement pucks only. que debo hacer?
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General info
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On 10/25/2005
Tom
wrote in from
United States
(207.200.nnn.nnn)
Hi Cliff,
I ride a 48" hand made longboard by Original Rocket Brand. The board is firm.
I have eXskate trucks with 80mm Krypto blues. What advice can you give me on equipment and are there any dvd's that you can reccomend ? I need to learn to slide.
Thank you,
Tom
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general info
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On 10/25/2005
Tom
wrote in from
United States
(207.200.nnn.nnn)
Hi Cliff,
I ride a 48" hand made board by Original Rocket Brand. The board is stiff. My trucks are eXskate and the wheels are krypto 80mm blues. What advice can you give me on equipment for sliding and are there any dvd's you could reccomend for sliding ? I really need to learn.
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dvd
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On 10/24/2005
habib
wrote in from
Canada
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sweet, i've been waiting for this dvd for almost a year. can't wait to get it.
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Faltown DVD promo
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On 10/24/2005
Chris
wrote in from
United Kingdom
(195.194.nnn.nnn)
The preview to our DVD is now on the website. It will be available to buy This Christmas. All the best bits from around the globe and some familiar faces from the slide scene."
http://www.faltownskateboards.com/faltownskateboards_media_DVD1.asp
shout out to cliff and the berkeley crew. wish we could come represent at the comp you've got going on stateside. take care and see you all soon
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breaking gloves
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On 10/20/2005 mike p
wrote in from
United States
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one time i was speedboarding a hill and my pad fell off my right glove as i was coming into a hard righty that had water on it. and then there was a car in the way on that turn. i really dont know why, but i stayed standing and didnt fall. things could have been ugly though. that was back in the days of home-made velcro gloves. lesson for the day: velcro is cool, but dont use it in the rain. use ur glue-ons.
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Joe I.
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On 10/17/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Joe,
Make sure that the pucks adhere to the glove and won't come off! If they did in the middle of a hill, it would surely be a problem. Buy gloves that are the correct size for the kid. I don't have any idea of his age or size? Go to McMaster.com and buy the oil impregnated UHMWPE. It great plastic and will probably outlast the young one. There is lots of information on the web about making "slider gloves". Do a search and see what you get. If you have any trouble, get back to me or try Timeship Racing. They have smaller gloves for children.
Good Luck,
Cliff Coleman
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The first step
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On 10/15/2005
Joe I
wrote in from
United States
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Cliff,
Is there any wrong way to make gloves? Perhaps with the puck too big or in the wrong place?
Making gloves for Nick and don't want to hurt the little fellow because he'll tell his Mom it's my fault.
Thanks,
Joe
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Ethan
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On 10/15/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
Ethan,
Great news regarding your new gloves. You are always welcome to slide with me if you are in the area. At this moment, you can learn easily without me being there to teach you. Go to "cliffslider.com". Then go to "Articles". Then enlarge the text so you can read my article on how to slide. It is called, "Street Slidin". If you have any problems at all, then stay in touch via e-mail. You could learn slide techniques in 5 minutes with me. On your own you might get it in less than a half hour. It's great fun and easy to do. For a minute when we were in Morro Bay, I thought Adam Schwippert's Mother was going to give it a go. By the way, Adam got it on the first try. He is good, but it is also that easy.
Have fun and say hello to your Dad and Mom. It was very nice visiting with them at the Worlds.
Cliff Coleman
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got me some gloves
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On 10/14/2005 Ethan
wrote in from
United States
(65.60.nnn.nnn)
hey Cliff,i just ordered my first pair of sliding gloves. took long enough ehh?
i guess now im gonna have to go back to cali and get some private sliding lessons with the man himself???
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TimeShip calling Cliff
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On 10/12/2005
GI Joe
wrote in from
United States
(65.19.nnn.nnn)
Hey Skater, your sponsor has been working on a new pair of gloves for you
incorporating some of suggestions that you have made to me over the past year.
Quick questions...Finger pucks or no, and shall I send them to the same address
as before?
Wrist guards do limit wrist movement, but if you are over 40 and just learning
slides then I suggest using both until you start to get it. I still do when
skating the Bear, and Bear Paws are big enough to handle the job!
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wrist guards
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On 10/11/2005 Aenghooste
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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Hi, just wanted to say a friend of mine tried the glove wrist guard combo and because of the wrist guard it stops the mobility of the wrist, an integral factor in sliding. Just stay low and use slide gloves, if you dont have far to fall you wont need the wrist guards!
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goofy-foot
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On 10/8/2005
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
(68.127.nnn.nnn)
goofy-foot,
Wrist Guards are not to be confused with Slider Gloves! The only way to use Wrist Guards if skateboarding, is to use them under Slide Gloves. This would require a larger glove, such as a welder's glove with a slide puck. You live in Venezuela. The weather is hot there much of the year. Welder's gloves with Wrist Guards underneath would be hot and sweaty. I have never had a problem with my wrists while using Slider Gloves. I would suggest that you try a glove like the Timeship Slider glove with the knuckle protection and replaceable pucks. They are light weight and very protective.
Cliff Coleman
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On 10/8/2005 dan@csu
wrote in from
United States
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my very first pair of 'slide gloves' were old rollerblade wrist guards that had plastic sticking out by the upper wrist- they lasted a couple weeks. thanks for humoring my story :) to answer your question- most people i know just use slide gloves- you should be ok with just them as long as you learn to slide at lower speeds in a SAFE, controlled environment.
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