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Pre-1980 Vintage Gear (6027 Posts)
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ACS 651
On 5/30/2001 Paul K wrote in from (195.110.nnn.nnn)

Dom,

regarding your ACS 651's. although i'm not completely certain ( i'm at work!!, so i can't look) i think my 651's purchased in 1976 had 2 sets of holes in the base plate, but i'm not sure if they are new school pattern, i fact, i have just looked at a photocopy of an ACS advert from an old skate mag & it looks like that all ACS trucks with Black bases had multple holes, but the inner set of holes looks too narrow for new school.


Paul

 
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pacers
On 5/29/2001 Dave G. wrote in from (208.29.nnn.nnn)

Duane:
You're killin' me here. Need them for my 4"UFO's Need them foor my 4" UFO's neeeed them for my 40' ofu's , phone home............

 
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Pacer I
On 5/29/2001 Duane wrote in from (63.48.nnn.nnn)

Playing with my old Pacer wheels...noticed they fit the axles really well on my trucks, so I mic'ed 'em out. These are the ones with large bearings, with a spacer / sleeve that runs all the way though both bearings and the space in between. The wheel has inch-size bearings, 0.5" ID and 1.125" OD. The spacer / sleeve is an actual 5/16 slide fit(not 8mm), thus the good fit. I like the idea of a spacer / sleeve, it keeps the bearings aligned in ways that just a spacer can't. Too bad the pacers had rock hard urethane, the bearing assembly made essentially a small hub and was (and is) better than most.

 
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Gullwing
On 5/29/2001 roger wrote in from (64.160.nnn.nnn)

The baseplates on my Gullwing split axles and Pheonix are slightly different. One has the pivot cup slightly forward, but can't remember which one.

 
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Gullwings/ Snakes
On 5/29/2001 Pre-School Rider wrote in from (209.198.nnn.nnn)

Duane,the Phoenix had a narrower axle and a solid hanger,whereas the HPG had a split axle hanger and was 7" wide at the axles.The baseplates are the same,and you'll want the kingpin bracket on if you go do slalom runs with these,as the kingpin could snap the base easily during quick,violent turns.I didn't like the green bushings,and my Phoenixes run Yellow Randal conical bushings and soft Tracker bushings.The HPG could work with the original bushings as the axle width provides better leverage. Those green Sims wheels could be Snakes,Comp 2's,or Mini Comps,but they'll say on the front of the wheel.If that is somehow missing on all four wheels,I can dig up the sizes of each.You've got an excellent 70's wheel/truck combo there,one that's got both Slalom capability,and collector value.

 
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Gullwing / Sims
On 5/28/2001 BoBo wrote in from (151.196.nnn.nnn)

If you want t part with those trucks and wheels I'll be glad to buy em Duane. They's be perfct for my slalom dech that I have coming in the mail. I had a set of those Gold Gullwings many years ago and I loved the way they turned. E-me if you want to sell.


BoB

 
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Gullwing / Sims
On 5/28/2001 Duane wrote in from (63.38.nnn.nnn)

My gold gullwings "HPG 4" printed on them, with green bushings, which I think are original. Don't know much about gullwings, are these the absolute originals or the phoenix? Pardon my ignorance.

Also found my Sims green wheels, snakes I believe, with Sims german racing bearings still in place. Are these worth anything? Should be from 1978-79.

Must convince my parents to move more often, more stuff turns up almost daily.

 
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Acs 651
On 5/27/2001 Herbn wrote in from (216.107.nnn.nnn)

Old AND new school holes in a truck supposedly old enough to drink, what do you think?,but hey if they work, so.Just don't Ebay them as originals.

 
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ACS 651
On 5/27/2001 dom wrote in from (193.248.nnn.nnn)

I got a new set of ACS651 but they looks like if they where made in China ( very cheap) they are strange because they are oldschool and newschool holes on the baseplate!!!
Is that a copy?

 
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Pic answer? 2
On 5/26/2001 BoBo wrote in from (151.196.nnn.nnn)

Must be Ed Economy!

 
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Pic answer?
On 5/26/2001 BoBo wrote in from (151.196.nnn.nnn)

Is it Eddie Eulgera? Thought I'd chime in.

Mahalo
Bob

 
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old days
On 5/26/2001 Glen wrote in from (216.102.nnn.nnn)

looking at pictures like the one with our mystery skater below, makes me really miss the skateparks of the old days. When Upland got the Combi pool, and Marina and Big O, came about with their pools, the older parks with their mellow snake runs and resevoir style bowls all went away and skaters even made of them. I would give up every one of the new school skateparks, both public and private ones, for a Skatercross, Montbello, Concrete Wave, Skateboard World, etc.
( The Boogie Bowl being the one exception, it was worse than the new parks).

 
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Sims boy
On 5/26/2001 PD wrote in from (207.114.nnn.nnn)

The giveaway for Mr. Economy's pic is the Montebello local info. Gotta admit, doesn't look like Ed, Looks a lot like Ed's Montebello homie, Bobby Piercy.

Hmmm...

--PD

 
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??
On 5/26/2001 Glen wrote in from (216.102.nnn.nnn)

Marlon and Arab got it.
You win a lifetime supply of Spam. Since one can of Spam is considered more than a lifetimes worth, you two will have to split one.
Feel better Arab.

 
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I've got!!!
On 5/26/2001 dave g. wrote in from (208.29.nnn.nnn)

It finally clicked! i'ts Geraldo Rivera w/ his mustache bleached for an under cover story about homeless skateboard punks in the 70's!!! That's my final answer,What do i win?

 
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??
On 5/26/2001 Marlon wrote in from (24.177.nnn.nnn)

I believe that the sk8er is Mitch Lantow. I hear he is making an excellent longboard.

 
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GUESS
On 5/26/2001 DAVE G wrote in from (208.29.nnn.nnn)

Looks like TOM SIMS with a helmet 2 sizes too large

 
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??
On 5/26/2001 Glen wrote in from (216.102.nnn.nnn)

Hint:
Montebello skatepark local.

 
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??
On 5/26/2001 Glen wrote in from (216.102.nnn.nnn)

Who could this be?

 
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Z-Flex
On 5/26/2001 Dave G wrote in from (208.29.nnn.nnn)

Herbn:
I Had a Jimmy Plummer with Pheonix's and powerflex5's. All I can recall is it chipping concrete at the bowl& praying , If I lost sight of it...My body wasn't it's target!!! Heavy's right

 
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ACS 580
On 5/26/2001 paul k wrote in from (195.92.nnn.nnn)

I'm trying to track down a pair of ACS 580,

any clues

Paul

 
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Z flex
On 5/26/2001 Herbn wrote in from (216.107.nnn.nnn)

This guy,duke, comes in yesterday with a Jimmy Plummer with Pheonixs,squished green bushings still in place,and i guess old faded sundried powell bone (gen 1). I couldn't believe that such a little board could weigh that much! ouch.

 
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bearing dates
On 5/25/2001 hugh r wrote in from (205.216.nnn.nnn)

Thanks for the info and e-mails...

One of the nice things about this site is all the experience... I'd guess a couple thousands years worth between us all! HR

 
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Gold,Sims Gold
On 5/25/2001 Herbn wrote in from (216.107.nnn.nnn)

I have two issues of Skateboarder handy,the "Toft issue" April 79 and an earlier, perhaps mid 78 issue,both have references to these bearings,in the earlier one they are minor listings in mail orders in the Toft issue they are in the back cover "Snake" ad. I'd say 79 to 82, i recall a long long waiting period,were we were teased with mentions and rumors but availability was non existant, that could just be a eastcoasters prespective.

 
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duraflex
On 5/24/2001 hugh r wrote in from (205.216.nnn.nnn)

Dan,

I just picked up a duraflex (inlaid wood model) it has duraflex trucks and no-name red wheels that are similar to simms bowl riders... hope that helps... HR

 
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