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Minimizers
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On 2/19/2000 Herbn
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hehe told ya so ,told ya so,just kidding I hope your friend wasn't to poor,and just put it down to experence, These posts are the most valuable a lot of times people are to embarrassed to admit they bought something that isn't all that it was made out to be ,thanks again, saved some money on that one,now I can try Ceramic Swiss.
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Ninja Minimisers
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On 2/18/2000
DT
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One of the riders out here was using the minis so we did a test with them, and they were SLOWER than swiss bones. They also burned up after a week. thats a waist of money! and ninja is recalling them because there outer shields were burning up too
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Ninja Minimizers
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On 2/16/2000 Pre-School Rider
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Thanks,Herbn!It wasn't as insightful as I'd hoped,but enlightening nonetheless.Smaller is not the way I'd go,but then again,I'm only a "mechanic",not a bloody "engineer".
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minimizers
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On 2/16/2000 Herbn
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series688,8mm bore (normal) 16mm outside diameter, 5mm wide,I'm pretty sure look up Revcon.com for master bearing list.
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cages
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On 2/15/2000 Nick
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Hey, How do you get the the cage back together. Reason for asking is that the cage is two peices and one side is crimped and the other side has prongs so how do you get the prongs back on the crimped piece. I tried everything to get them back together. The bearings are still good. So any information will be helpful.
Chow,
Nick
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Ninja Minimizers
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On 2/15/2000 Pre-School Rider
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Does anyone have the specifications on these bearings? I'd like to see what the dimensions of the cages,and ball bearings are! It seems that there's a good argument for friction reduction in the basic idea,But i don't know if strength is being sacrificed for more speed.As it is.608's aren't all that rugged,and there's a good argument to use a Bigger bearing right there.I also recall Astro,UFO,and Wizard wheels(Pacers,too?) using larger bearings for more speed,which seemed to make sense to me.I know that a lighter bearing load works to reduce friction,and a bigger bearing does that for you automatically.Any Info? Opinions?
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Bearing washers for Mike
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On 2/15/2000 Pre-School Rider
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Mike,Many trucks come with washers,and yours probably should have.Speed washers are available at most skateboard shops,and a hardware-store quality 5/16" flat washer is not a good thing to put on your axles.Check back into the archives on this thread to read more about what works.
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Speed Washers
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On 2/15/2000 Blah
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Go to a decent skate shop, and they'll have some speed washers and 10mm spacers in their misc hardware box behind the counter. Depending on the shop, it might be free or cost you a couple of bucks. Usually, I found spacers are $.25 each and speed washers are free.
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speed washers for bearings
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On 2/15/2000
Mike
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Does anyone know if speed washers come with bearings or trucks, cuz my board came without them. Would and normal washer work? I need some advice, thanx.
--Peace
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Minimizers
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On 2/15/2000 Herbn
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When I talked to the guy at ASR last october they didn't even know the 688 bearing had been done before,why would they? they're out of the bladers camp, diversifing into skateboards. I won't hold that against them (well just a little) they do seem to make good quality bearings,but the compact design definitely does not increase strength,those things are real thin,no increase in material quality can offset that,its like using better plies and making a board thats half as thick,minimizers may or may not increase speed,definitely accelleration ,maybe top speed just a little , 608s maybe a little over designed but not by that much. I 've searched for alternative bearings and there is a size that has a 22 mm od,fits right into skatewheels, but has a larger hole ,10mm so you get most of the same benifits of minimizers but they are stronger ,almost as strong as 608s. I'm real curious now and may just hook up with these "new bearings"real soon.
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Ninja Minimizers
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On 2/15/2000
Bob
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Thats a very good point Chris. I'll bet it does create less destructive forces on the bearings.
I'd like to see some well document tests of this stuff, including the small bearing specialty wheel.
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Ninja Minimizers
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On 2/15/2000
Chris
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Bob,
You said, "With a Minimizer bearing, the distance from the outside edge of the bearing to the outside edge of the wheel is greater than with a normal bearing. It seems like this will create extra leverage under which the bearing may get tweeked around in the wheel a lot worse." This may be true, but the more compact bearing is liable to be stronger (given smaller diameter and similar materials/construction), so this might offset the greater leverage.
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minimizers
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On 2/15/2000
Bob
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I talked to the guys from Ninja at ASR for quite while. They were the real deal -- really had major technical knowledge.
According to them the normal, non-Ninja size minimizer was indeed to week for skateboard applications. They would just burn out an fall apart. The Ninja Minimizers are composed of higher quality, tougher materials to avoid this problem.
The Ninja guys had a variety of wheel set ups there for demonstration. All, even the Minimizers, had the correct spacer set up. All the bearings were really nice.
Normally, the Minimizers require an adapter so they will fit a normal wheel. However, they had some wheels that were made to fit the minimizers.
When I got home, I started to wonder if the smaller bearing might not present another problem, within that special wheel...
It seems like with the smaller bearing in a normal wheel, without an adapter (the wheel just has smaller bearing seats), there might be too much leverage on the bearing under certain riding positions/conditions. With a Minimizer bearing, the distance from the outside edge of the bearing to the outside edge of the wheel is greater than with a normal bearing. It seems like this will create extra leverage under which the bearing may get tweeked around in the wheel a lot worse.
Anyone have any thoughts?
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608
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On 2/15/2000 herbn
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There are only a few applications that have bearings designed specifically for that use,people seem to think somehow skaters got gyped with a cheap generic design,personally I think the 608 is the best overall bearing for skateboards it matches the stresses very well,question? if the "new" smaller bearings were designed specifically for skateboards why are they built to a demension (688) that has existed for a long time,has been used for skateboards before (z products) and was dropped because it burnt out,well maybe it didn't sell to well either.What exactly is different about Ninja minimizers?
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bearings
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On 2/14/2000 rene
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Just a little two cents worth, FYI most all 608 bearings are shielded not truely sealed, if they are sealed its mostly a contact seal meaning the seal rubs against the inner race and that makes it real slow, awhile back GMN made a BRS that had a non contact sealed bearing it had a chanel that the seal dropped into so it would not rub but still kept out lots of dust/dirt. Only way you ever get a truely sealed bearing is if it rubs the inner seal, so now it will be real slow...Remember that 608 bearings were no designed for skateing they were used because they were readily available and inexpensive, mostly used for electric motors, vacums, and that sort of thing, where dirt did not enter the picture..
Just skate them and clean them ever so often and deal with the fact that they are going to get dirty, u could use a marine grease if you really have to skate in the water that would help!
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Finish Line
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On 2/13/2000 Lindsay
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Yes, but watch out as it may disolve the plastic bits in your bearings.
I use Finish Line citrus-based cleaner, does a prime job.
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petrol
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On 2/12/2000 racer
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will petrol clean out the sand and dust out of your bearings
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Dust in Bearings??
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On 2/12/2000
Hizzout
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Dust and dirt in bearings is just a fact of skating...Just try to keep 'em clean!
Try out Rene's idea Nick...Rene knows his skates...
Keep Carvin'
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Abec-5
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On 2/9/2000 Nick
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I'd think that dust would get in the inside of my bearings. Reason for saying this is that every time I take out my bearings I find dust and dirt inside of my wheels. I resently took off my sheilds to degrease and lube up again because they were gummed up. So tell me what you think!
Dig it for the soul ride,
Nick
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wire problem
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On 2/9/2000 rene
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Hey, its a C clip and most likely you have bearings with shiels on both sides, if that's the case pull the bearing out toss the bad shield and flip it so the open part is on the inside of the bearing!!
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Abec - 5 terminator bearings
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On 2/8/2000 Nick
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I have a little problem with the little wire holding my bearing shields on. It keeps falling out! So if anyone knows how to keep it on please let me know!
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Re: ALCOHOL SOAKING
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On 2/7/2000
Hizzout
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I find that my bearings prefer a Vodka on the rocks, or an occasional Whisky Sour.
They behave oddly after a couple though,
What a couple of lushes!
Keep Carvin' Barney.
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ALCOHOL SOAKING?!!!
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On 2/7/2000
THIRSTY FUZZ
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Soaking in alcohol? What a waste...
Drink the stuff!
Guzzle, guzzle...
BUUUURP! : )
YOURS LIP SMACKINGLY
FUZZ
xxx
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RUBBING ACHOHOL
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On 2/2/2000 MR SQUID
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WHEN CLEANING YOUR BEARING TRY SOAKING THEM IN RUBBING ACHOLOL
FOR 1 HOUR OR SO AND IT WILL NOT EXSPODE IN YOUR FACE!!
AFTER I DID IT THEIR WAS ALOT OF DIRT IN THE ACHOLOL
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Copiers
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On 2/1/2000 Herbn
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Just in case you brain isn't full yet here's one more obscure factile,the idea for roadriders (or possibly cadilacs) formula of urithanet, came from the little wheel in a copier that is accurate and grippy enough to feed a single sheet of paper off the top of the paper supply.There were earlier urithanes hat were almost as hard and sketchy as the clay they replaced.
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