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more surf...
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On 5/1/2004 vaitus
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Angi sorry to read about the ankle, been there done that.....when you're fully recovered make sure you're using a good pair of hitops for ankle support
(I use the ipath bigfoot in natural hemp and they're great!) with a neoprene ankle brace for the first few days.
Hey SS those carver trucks video are awesome, I've been wondering about those for quite sometimes since I saw a picture of Laird Hamilton riding them (latest issue of Juice). I made a search on the trucks forum and found some interesting reviews, both positive and negative, there's even a guy who's selling completes with carvers on, http://www.bukuboards.com/fat_fish.htm.
I'm not sure if the guy at the beginning of the stik video is the kids dad....but he sure can pull some amazing standup slides....backside!!
Looks like everybody in that video is some kind of pro, kids included.
Can't really think of any setup that would allow you to do those things since I don't know you and I've never seen you skating, whatsmore what works for me might not work for you and the opposite. The best thing I can think of is try as many different boards as you can, then go ahead and buy some stuff and experiment with it.
Last but not least you or someone else might be interested in this nuclear pickle (hughr has a review of these trucks on his page) complete I saw on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16264&item=3674790452&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
looks very similar to the stik.
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Real Downhill
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On 5/1/2004
silversurfer
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oops... it would help if I gave you the address
http://www.supaflexbyug.com/supatv/index/html/index_e.html
go to the bottom and click on "real downhill"
check out the others there, too.
did you look at this one yet?
http://www.auralstimuli.com/internet/carver.html - go to videos -
What do you think of these, I have more if you like them.
Getting a new board, too. I don't think I am going to get the stik, it is cool though.
I've been searching the equipment forums for ideas.
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On 5/1/2004 angi
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could not find "real downhill" am I overlooking it??
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R..I..C..E..
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On 5/1/2004 angi
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hey Pshy0Lloyd!
thanks! I was hopin' I wasnt a total reject for injuring myself just pushing off...derrr.. my buddy that owns the skateboard shop told me the RICE
rest, ice, compression, elevation...been doing it hardcore! feeling pretty good now,,,still a little lump..but am gonna hit the h2o tomorrow for a few wake sessions. gonna ice it again tonite and elevate it just to be safe. been takin ibu's too. (swelling)
ahhh! I love wakesurfing! anything on a board...count me in! Just got back from Orlando it was the first pro tour stop for wakeboarding/wakeskating..very kool..
hoping to be back on the board by next week (skate) any tips/pointers on was i pushing off wrong, should i stretch out first..any tips at all so this does not happen again?!!!
silver---I want a STIK! but too, like you,,am I merely swayed by the dope a** video???? :)
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i was wonderin'...
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On 5/1/2004
psYch0Lloyd
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...where you'd you gotten off to angi. take it real easy there w/the ankle, ice it as much as you can and stay off of it so it doesn't get any worse. it's pretty easy to injure yourself w/o knowing it. when you start using it (walking or anything) be sure to ice it often because the swelling can do more damage than the injury itself. had the same situation some years back when it was impossible to walk but getting around on a skateboard was about all i could do. weaned myself off the deck by playin' frisbee... until i figured out how to ride one (that's another story best saved for some other time).
not to worry, i understand wakesurfing. first experienced it around 1984. used to paddle out into the boat lanes out here in chicago and thumb down boats for a tow. then if a deep hulled rigger came about it would just be a matter of communicating my intentions to the captain and it was riding for miles. one time lost my ride by addison and didn't realize it untill it became obvious that I was in the midst of speeding boats coming out of belmont harbour and clay shards showering from above as the skeet shooters were goin' off at the gun club (now gone). sure put the fear in me like the time the "logs" were moving of their own volition when my buddies and i surfed the mouth of the st. johns, realizing right away we had a pod 'o gators amongst us.
btw my handle psYch0Lloyd is derived from a mathematical formula and is pronounced like similarly. the zero is silent (of course).
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More cool video....
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On 4/30/2004 silversurfer
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And here is some more awesome video.
Go to the bottom and click on "real downhill". It takes a minute to load.
This one features some cool music, awesome slides and crazy skateboarders doing
some amazing things!
Check out the other video's at the bottom there too. And let me know what you think.
Maybe these guys should wear helmets...maybe I should....
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Anji
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On 4/30/2004 silversurfer
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I'm glad you liked the stik video. So much style, like the Z - boys. I wish that me and my son and two daughters skated like the dad and kids in the video. We are working on it. Great example of the coleman slides and bert's.
For another weird video, check out the video's at:
http://www.auralstimuli.com/internet/carver.html
Check out the guy "surfing" the sidewalk on an actual SURF BOARD!
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hey SS..
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On 4/30/2004 angi
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yeah, thanks so much! I just viewed it again today..makes me wanna skate! :(
I actually saved it cuz one of our buddies is comin' over tonite and he carves like a beast...so I thought I would show him..just found out he longboards and goes to the 'bowl'
In that video, I love the begining where the kids and dad are carving and sliding...(was thinking I bet thats what silver and his sons look like!!)
and that bowl..how saaa-weet! not too steep,,I would love to skate something like that!! any other good vids u reccomend would be appreciated,,I tried to click on a few of those otehr links that someone else posted..but they didnt work!
yeah, real bummer about the ol' ankle.
no hubbies been snatchin' mine up and cruisin without me..I'll be back soon, so he'll have to get his own!! (wonder how many husbands and wifes have fights about him riding her skateboard?) LOL
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Hi, Anji
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On 4/30/2004 silversurfer
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Sorry to hear about the ankle.
Did your husband ever get a new board or is he just using yours because you can't? Which ones was he looking at? It's usually better to buy longboard stuff from a good on line shop like purpleskunk.com, solidskate.com or longskate.com. Oh and Daddies board shop is good, too.
Did you ever get a chance to check out the video at www.stik.com?
I think you would enjoy it, it is very surfy.
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:( ankle trouble..what gives?
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On 4/30/2004
angi simpson
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psycho lloyd--- its called wakesurfing...its super fun and kool to do when u cant wakeboard (cuz of chop) we have footage of our friend Drew Danielo, he is the #1 wakesurfer in the world as of last year. check out www.420Empire.com and there are several vids of drew throwin' it down. the dead end stare video on there has fooage of drew skateboarding too, the kid is sick on any board! yeah, we load down one side of the boat depending on if your rider is regular or goofy footed..and you go about 10-12 mph. the best boat we have surfed behind is an X30 ...good stuff.
bad news on the skateboarding front...I pulled some ligaments (sp)? in my ankle and it puffed up like a blowfish..i am out for a few days.no skate/wake nuthin! I have to be all rested and better by May 7th that is the first wakeboard tournament I am in!! so i am trying to rest..anyone know any good tips so this doesnt happent again?? it seems I just pulled it from being out alllll day and from pushing off.! wierd. forget i am 'older'sometimes.
time to go watch some vids...I can dream can't I?
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sorry about the double
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On 4/29/2004 silversurfer
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sorry
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What about the Kids?
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On 4/29/2004 silversurfer
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vaitus - I know about Brad Gerlach. I don't expect to be able to skate like he does in that cool banked skate park. I would be great if I could though. That is really surf skating.
What I am talking about is near the begining of the video. A dad and some kids start pumping down the flat and then they start grabing a rail and pulling cool slides and such. If I could just emulate that one scene (to start with) it would be great.
What equipment (other than the surf stik) would be good for this?
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What about the Kids?
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On 4/29/2004 silversurfer
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vaitus - I know about Brad Gerlach. I don't expect to be able to skate like he does in that cool banked skate park. I would be great if I could though. That is really surf skating.
What I am talking about is near the begining of the video. A dad and some kids start pumping down the flat and then they start grabing a rail and pulling cool slides and such. If I could just emulate that one scene (to start with) it would be great.
What equipment (other that the surf stik) would be good for this?
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stik
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On 4/26/2004 vaitus
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hey SS, the video looked awesome but remember who Brad Gerlach is...a world class surfer....the best thing you could do to learn surf style is to learnhow to surf...round of applause for Mr.Obvious :))) I posted a review of my quiver on the completes forum. later on ...
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More Surf.....
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On 4/24/2004 silversurfer
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vaitus - the Stik did'nt look slow in the video, but I'll take your word for it. It's $215 not $250. I don't like that you cant put standard skateboard wheels and bearings on it.
What specific set up (exact deck, trucks, wheels, bearings) would you put together that would work as well or better? I want to be able to skate like they showed in the stik video. I know that the right equipment by it self wont make that happen. Any other suggestions for learning surf style?
What do you ride now?
Anyone else have any ideas?
Peace -- SS
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Sidewalk Surfing
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On 4/24/2004
SilverSurfer
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Hey everyone, thank you for your thoughts on land surfing.
What kind of equipment are you currently using for this stye of skateboarding?
How do you like it and would you recommend your current ride?
What kind of equipment is on your current wish list, what would you get if money was no object (other than a new Ferrari, I mean)?
I'd also like to hear more about what surf style skating means to you;
where do you do it, what kind of stances, moves do you have?
There are a million instructional videos for kickfliping/street style,
I would really like to see one on surf style skateboarding.
I've heard that those eXkate trucks are pretty cool. I am currently using the Original SuperCarve trucks and they are similar. They use a single spring instead of a bushing (or instead of two springs like the Surf Stik or Seismics). Their great! I can turn super tight circles, U turns on sidewalks, ect. You have to have the right deck with them, though or you will get wheelbite. My deck is the Original Freestyle 43, it has a beutiful snowboard shape to it. It also has holes in it right where the wheels would touch. I get zero wheel bite, and I can really lean into turns (sort of like that surf stik). I really like it.
But, I am also searching for another (ultimate) set up for surf style.
What do you guys (and gals) think?
SS
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stik thoughts
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On 4/23/2004 MissouriMatt
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I'd through in the exkate torsion trucks for surfy carving in a flowing park. Our park in Columbia is not great, but it is a concrete park with some variety and flow. the bushings don't compress, they twist, and I've heard some complain the return to center but they really turn hard, allow you to though your weight in a turn on a bank and really unload pumping out of the bowl. I agree with getting your money in wheels and trucks, building your own carving machine for a better price with better a better ride. But, s#@!, you gotta ride it to know. I'd like to hear more from others that have ridden one. I really liked the video. those where beautiful long flowing lines. I liked hearing his thoughts on the board at the end. I don't discount that as just a sales pitch, but I[m from Missouri, you gotta show me. and all that.
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The Shiny One!
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On 4/23/2004
SilverSurfer
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Here is a recent picture of me ripping a cosmic wave.
http://marvelite.prohosting.com/surfer/gallery/nexus/surfer9.html
SS
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....you beckoned oh shiny one
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On 4/23/2004 vaitus
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....hhhhmmmmm.......donuts.....:-)))
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full on surf skate
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On 4/23/2004 vaitus
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Aloha! nice stories everybody.
Silversurfer, I got my downhill motion from ebay or half.com.
if you don't like waiting or bidding you can find it here:
http://www.onlinesports.com/pages/I,VA-SK641.html?AID=9339788&PID=779711
It's a great movie, has a lot of z boys in it and other great skaters, la costa footage and the signal hill race, the final sequence of G.Weaver is unbeliavable.
Bertelmann was a great surfer, he had veteran Hawaiian shaper Ben Aipa design him a surfboard (the Stinger) that he could replicate his skate moves on....he was known to sand the fin box bigger so that the fin would play and he could pull tail slides easily. Another great surfer skater was/is Hawaiian Buttons K., I believe they were on the same team back then and while bert is now retired Buttons still shreds both on land and on water, he's sponsored by Gravity and appears in their videos.
da shtik, one day I actually happened to ride one of those (briefly). My impression are as follows: the carvability is definetly there but I don't know if I would pay $250 for it. The wheels have a cone shape and are slow, the bearings were really bad, even on the brand new boards I saw at the surf shop.
The trucks are basically seismics clone with the only difference that you don't have the option of having different springs or baseplates. For that kind of money you could get a landyacthz board of similar shape, trued axles seismics with the right springs for your weight, your choice of expensive ceramic bearings, gumball or avila wheels and still end end up with a faster setup and some spare change...anyways don't take my word for it, you know how the saying goes: what works for me etc...
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stik video
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On 4/23/2004 henry
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although the truck design is very interesting, i bet you could get the same sensation of deep carving with a dropped deck like a landy UA and some loose randals. At least it seems to be a little unstable... also i would miss a kicktail on that board. but, silversurfer, if you get your hands on one of that stik thingys, i would love to hear some recommendations!
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"Attn: psYchOLoyd"
....you beckoned oh shiny one
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On 4/23/2004 psYch0Lloyd
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"On 4/23/2004 silversurfer wrote in from 24.62.xxx.xxx:"
"Did you get a chance to check out the video at www.stik.com?"
Yes, I have, thank you btw.
"I want to be able to skate just like they show in the video."
You can, but you just haven't realized that you're doing it yet.
"This is as close to surfing on land that I have seen. They make it look easy."
That's probably because they are also surfers.
"What do you think of their Surf Stik board?" seems cool enough... "I am thinking of buying one." go right ahead... no... maybe... yeah, do it! "Is it good, or would you recommend a different set up for sidewalk surfing? whatever's cleaver "Am I just being swayed by a very slick video? look deeply into the pretty new toy, your getting really sleepy... the money is burning a hole in your pocket... spend... spend... spend!
"Does anyone else have an opinion on this video, and/or board?"
Dagnammit! Now you just broke the spell.
"Eagerly waiting for responce - Eric"
Hope you know that I really don't know what I'm talking about?
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videos
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On 4/23/2004 robc
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A good double bill with downhill motion is The Devil' Toy. It's from 1966- so while there's nothing extreme in it, it's a nice look at a "sufier" time. I saw this movie way, way back in the early 70's before I ever saw a skateboard. I remember being confused, as a small child, because I'd always been told the police were my friends, but here was this movie about something that looked like an awful lot of fun, but, for some reason, the police didn't seem to like it much.
http://cmm.onf.ca/E/titleinfo/index.epl?id=10495
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psYch0Lloyd - MO Surf Stories and Liquid
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On 4/23/2004 MissouriMatt
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A wildass friend of mine, (who drug me done to the Virgin Islands, interupting my college education for 5 years!), became prosocuing attorney in Iron County, home of the Johnson Shut-ins and several other similar but lesser known spots. Crazy daze... Glad to hear you wear there on the Board. How funny.
On another note, I took the whole family (kids 2, 5, and 9) to a little indy theater last summer and watched Step Into Liquid. I felt like we were one of those families in Whitchata KAnsas in the '60's, watching Endless Summer and starting the dream. They'd already seen lots of pics from my Caribbean adventures (including clean 20 foot faces from Gilbert, with me ripping on a bodyboard) and lots of Surfers Journals and TSJ video, but the "little" big screen Step Into Liquid experience kept 'em talking for days. I had to go back the next night and see it again! I loved the Texas tanker surfers.
There are some boards available now that are made just for surfing boat wakes. A young kid that lives at the Lake of the Ozarks, and wakeboards every chance he gets, said they overload a decent size boat with a crew all on one rail and cruise along at about 5 to 7 mph while someone surfs the wake. So yes, someone is surfing MO. I couldn't wipe the smile off my face as he told me numerous funny stories about their "surf trips" at the lake.
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landy
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On 4/23/2004 SJ Ryan
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Hey angi, for an all around board for the hubby, take a look at the Landyachtz Chief, Aluminum Seismic 180 trucks , ABEC 11 78a Flashback Wheels, Pleasure Tools Bearings-- I know nobody will object to that being a killer all around board... And get some longboard trucks!
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