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Original Concept
On 5/31/2006 Zogs wrote in from United States  (167.206.nnn.nnn)

This was the original idea for what the graphic was going to be...

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The final product killed that computer generated piece of junk!

 
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Paint
On 5/31/2006 Zogs wrote in from United States  (167.206.nnn.nnn)

I came up with the design of having the kokopelli blow fire out of his horn. I have a friend though who is awesome at painting and wanted to try doing the board. So, I handed the board over to her. She really outdid my expectations in terms of adding a second kokopelli man and also painting the fatboy logo on there. The shading on the flames is INTENSE!!! The colors change depending on the way the light shines on it.

Its basically her entry to the grahpics contest. I just did the stuff like dreaming it up, clear coating it, and then mounting it.

 
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Zogs paint job
On 5/30/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

Mr Zogs THAT IS ONE VERY COOL PAINT JOB!!! I love it dude!!! Did you design and paint it yourself?

 
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Koko Fire - My Fatboy gone WILD!!!
On 5/30/2006 Mr. Zogs wrote in from United States  (167.206.nnn.nnn)

Hey guys... finally finished my fibreflex mod (no pictures yet) and got around to setting my randal 150s up on it with khiro whites up front and blues in the rear. Great setup. I'll have pictures tomorrow probably.

Anyway, the main reason for my post is to show off (yes, show off, heh) the new paintjob on my Fatboy Fata$$. Handpainted in acrylics. Its two kokopelli men blowing blue flames up the board out of their nose "horns." Enjoy!

Before...
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After!
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meetings
On 5/30/2006 Munchh wrote in from United Kingdom  (86.132.nnn.nnn)

I envy u lot, one day when my lotto numbers come in i'll get to meet you all, but for now, vids are good.

 
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the pump day!
On 5/30/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

Was it amazing? Was it more than one could even wish for? Was it a pump skater's dream come true?

Yes, it was all this and more.

Skating with the two skatekings, James and Derek, was inspiring, euphoric and a hill of fun!

Vids to follow.

 
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3 pumpers meet
On 5/29/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

One from the north, two from the south...meeting somewhere in between to share pump stoke!

When?

TODAY!!!

Check back here later for a full event report.

 
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just breakin' in ;-)
On 5/29/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)



here's that link to CX front singles that was mentioned on the 'fish -- www.solidskate.com/truck/carv.shtml

 
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truck parts
On 5/27/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

James thanks for your opinions on the off round CX hanger hole. I have set the truck up with harder duro bushings and will mount it again soon to see how it skates. I really don't want to have to pitch trucks after only a few hundred kilometres of pumping. Its too bad we can't just get truck parts when we need replacements instead of having to buy an entire set of trucks. Just the hanger or at least just the front CX would be nice to be able to purchase when needed.

In the meantime I will be squeezing as much life out of the truck and bushings as possible.

 
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tracker Munnch
On 5/27/2006 erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

Looking really good there Munnch! I too am curious about how the Trackers will pump over the longer distances. I am thinking of putting a set up one my Sandpipers so will be keen to hear how they go.

 
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tracker munchh board
On 5/27/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)

Thats a tasty setup Munchh! Glad to see you set up with trackers, and like to hear your impressions. Have been wanting to test an uber-wedged tracker on front and just haven't had the spare moment to put it together. I used to have a lot of the washer biting into the hangar, but with barrel Khiros top and bottom and a flat washer I don't run into that anymore.

 
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hangar hole & rear bushing
On 5/27/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)

hey erin, i'm finally able to catch up to you with my opin on this, before i bust out for the mem day weekend... i'm not exactly sure its a bad thing to have that hole worn a bit. i actually like the feel until that thing is really torn open. note that derek and i might differ a little in our opinions on this one. but on my tracker midtracks for example, brad jackman got me taking a round file to bore that hole open more, right away, to make the truck "twitchier"... so following that logic, the natural wear on the CX for me anyway, is something I like. I have benefitted from using a slightly harder durometer bushing, the more that hole opens up. so far I've never busted a front kingpin on my CX, and I think its partly because the hangar takes more punishment. "somethings gotta give" and I'd rather see a hangar wear down slowly and bushings get eaten up, over a kingpin fail in a split second. (ow!!) hope that helps-- i think those still got a lotta miles in 'em. derek feels that they work at their 'optimal' point when the hole is smallest, and there may be something to that but I think a lot of this starts boiling down to preference. i'll take a few shots later of what my splitfire holes look like now too... they're also "broken in"!

as for the rear bushing i'm with derek on that one. i have a tracker stim on bottom and khiro cone on top and I hardly even have to look at it!

 
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New setups
On 5/27/2006 Munchh wrote in from United Kingdom  (86.132.nnn.nnn)



What with the slalom setup giving me so much pleasure and seeing the master using those little splitfires, i thought i'd give this a go. Because of the great English summer time, its been wet for ages, with brief glimpses of dry tarmac. It pumps very similar to the slalom deck, but with a longer motion, but the power off the back is real nice. The front is wedged 12 degrees and the back de-wedged 5, i was able to pump it round the carpark for a good 10mins without a problem, so i think the mile will be great on this, but its the 1st time i've got off and not had the cramped foot, so could be good for alot further.

Erin, that pinky-pipper is looking sweet, the holeys do it credit, hope its being a good girl?

So what with you all getting your hands on the ROE LDP, is it proving to be the ultimate, JP makes it look unstoppable in that vid?

Does anyone else use the Kiro cone inserts, the stop that bushing washer on top grinding into the hanger around the kingpin hole??

 
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CX hanger hole
On 5/26/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

James is this what you mean by the front Carver CX hanger hole being bored out?



Doesn't look too good for about 200 km of pumping, eh? I wonder if I should be stock piling an inventory of Carver trucks as well as the bushings?!

 
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bushings
On 5/26/2006 derek wrote in from United States  (24.16.nnn.nnn)

i'm not changing out my rear carver bushings much at all- probably one rear bushing for every 5-7 front ones? Lately my front ones are tearing/cracking from top to bottom on just about every ride, and i'm not quite sure why that's happening. i want those mushed up ones like you guys are getting!

 
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another bushing query
On 5/26/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (142.22.nnn.nnn)

Hey guys, how fast do the rear bushings on Carver CX's wear as compared to the front?

 
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bushing meltdown
On 5/26/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (142.22.nnn.nnn)

Cool, I'm in for the bushing fondu party as well!

James, do you have the same problem of bushing demolition regardless of the trucks used for pumping or are some worse than others? For example, how are you finding the Splitfires when it comes to bushing consumption?

 
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cheaper than lift tickets, i suppose ;-)
On 5/26/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)

yeah i could build a Devils Tower with all the bushing casualties, that was just a handful in the tool box. maybe we could create a new magic formula by melting these down together in a pot on the kitchen stove? (or a house call from the fire dept.) Ah...but with all that goo then we'd need a mold, a lathe, a bunch of other tools and expertise, or something. The melting part sounds like fun.

 
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bushings
On 5/25/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

Wow, that's am impressive set of chewed bushings there James. Yeah and they do look familiar. It seems my collection of mutilated cushions is well on its way!

Derek, wow, 50 bushings. But I can see why you would decide to get some many. I will get in touch with Daddies and see if I can get a stash of my own. Small price to pay for the fun of pumping though. It is so addictive. I was out once this morning for a big ol' sesh and then my skate pal joined me this afternoon for another pump extravaganza. Too fun!

Bushing stockpiling here I come!

 
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carver bushings
On 5/25/2006 derek wrote in from United States  (24.16.nnn.nnn)

great news erin!

daddy's board shop just got a massive shipment of carver bushings. i ordered 50 sets, and they just arrived today in this big old happy bag. it's nice to not have to worry about finding those things for a while :)

 
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carver food
On 5/25/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)

erin, I know derek's talked with daddies about a big order of CX stocks, but not sure if its a done deal already. is the hangar hole on your CX bored out? i wonder once it starts opening up if that affects the life of the bushings because the hangar can slide from side to side more... i've tried a lot of 'thane, best so far is the stock Carvers, then 2nd is shaved radikal red on bottom clear on top (flat washer on top) and 3rd choice is Khiro barrel-cone, or barrel-barrel. i'd have to say I do eat bushings almost 2x as fast on these.

 
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ldp bushing woes
On 5/25/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (66.183.nnn.nnn)

Went out for a pump on the Carvers today only to find that the top new white Khiro wws spit out, all chewed up, in less than 6 km. I threw in a bones yellow spare that I had in my camelback. Another 3 km or so later the bottom white also ate it. In went a top Holey bushing. Now a top bushing in the bottom of a Carver is not really that comfortable a set up.

So I am wondering what I am going to try next? There has got to be a nice turny bushing that lasts for a few skates..... Or perhaps I should just go on the search for a caseload of stock Carvers. The CX bushings did actually last for about 150 km of skating.

 
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new distances
On 5/24/2006 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)

Derek and Erin thanks! That ride opened new thinking not only for me but for some packs of bikers I had the pleasure to pass from time to time! Granted, a lot of them were not hauling butt (as one with a 21-speed most definately could) but to keep or exceed their pace and hear their encouragement all the way, was just a blast. Cool crowd. The brewery stop at the half-way point of this event indicates its not all hardcore and serious, but I was definately pushing for a good overall time. The Roe's width gave my feet so many options, switching stance around seriously helped, after the 30-mile mark.



Will be interested in your Holey impression Erin, I held off on my Holey and SpeedVents orders, I'm staying dialed into current gear for another few months, narrow hangars, severely wedged trucks and split or offset axles. I would REALLY like to hold a Holey next to a Gullwing Cruiser60, and understand the exact differences (besides the Cruiser being narrower) especially what u mention about the kingpin. First thing I've always done was chuck the stock pins and put in Grade8's, flipped. Btw that pink LBL looks purrrrrty!

Tarin cool to see you here! Very curious what part of the C7 you break? I've had the main, fat spring inside the baseplate snap off a coil or two, then its in there floppy and jingling around, until replaced. Same with RTR. At least when they snap, the trucks keep their form and you don't normally get pitched. Both C7s and RTRs are superb for surfing and slashing around parking lots, quick jaunts down a boardwalk, but I'm definately biased now toward CXs or more traditional, narrow-ish slalom trucks with high rebound bushings, for cranking fast responsive pumps.

 
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Holeys
On 5/24/2006 Erin wrote in from Canada  (142.22.nnn.nnn)

Yup, Holeys are a UK native.

 
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U.B's
On 5/24/2006 Munchh wrote in from United Kingdom  (86.142.nnn.nnn)

Actually i've just noticed they are a little more expencive, but if you use just one on the front, theres not alot in it.

Those holeys are made in the U.K., is that right?

 
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