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endless richness
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On 6/24/2006
Erin
wrote in from
Canada
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"The discovery of endless richness in subtle variation on familiar themes."
That really captures the essence of ldp for me. Thanks for posting Evans.
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repetition
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On 6/24/2006 derek
wrote in from
United States
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right on evans!
that's a quote from aikido master george leonard, in his book "mastery," yeah?
there are an infinite number of ways to express yourself on a longboard, and every one of them is valid. slalom, skogging, vert, downhill, ldp, or cruising for 2000 miles- why is it necessary to suggest that one experience is better than the other? it's not better, it's different.
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Repetition
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On 6/24/2006
Evans
wrote in from
United States
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The essence of boredom is to be found in the obsessive search for novelty.
Satisfaction lies in mindful repetition......
The discovery of endless richness in subtle variation on familiar themes.
Evans "Badlands" the House of High Speed
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Long Distance Anything is Repetitious
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On 6/23/2006
Chris Yandall
wrote in from
United States
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Since when has quantity dictated fun?
for gods sakes, men have been climbing moutain peaks and swimming triathalons to prove who's dick is bigger for ages! the few and far between will find a medium less traveled and perhaps more enjoyable simply for longevitity of movement through the years.
great! travel the globe and boast about distance! you guys are awesome! but don't set the bar all about long distance to be worth a deamn!
some of us like to make the best out of a 10 mile pump everyday instead of traveling 2000 miles once a year or maybe once in a lifetime and brag about it everyday :D
just ride the damn things and let your actions speak louder than roars here :P
and oh yes! i pump often and anyone here that loves flat-land self generated speeds.... look @ ME @ 53! this aint no party, this aint no disco... this is a nice stroll down the san diego beach boardwalks.! senior citizen wheelchair rides on your skateboard! you don't need to catch 20' of air to show what you got! just be smooth and in command of your skateship.
cYa
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Mexico to Kanaduh
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On 6/22/2006
Marc Moberg
wrote in from
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Why is he going up? Don't you think down would be easier? Just kidding....
Anyway, let him know that Seattle is a bad place to ride a skateboard on the street. It is considered a toy and it is illegal to ride in the street. However, the sidewalks are open for riding, he will have to do a little people slalom to get through.
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cali pushers
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On 6/22/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
(64.236.nnn.nnn)
Haven't yet heard of LDP events down south, but there are a couple hardcore California distance pushers, E.J. I've been in touch with, that was planning to make the Solstice, but I alerted him when the event got scaled down. He's still jonesin' to come up. He mentioned a 50-miler this September the Ensenita to Rosita bike ride, sounds wicked!!
A guy by the moniker "Deciduous Tea" on the Gravity boards is on his way up here - he's boarding from Mexico to Canada, so his schedule's hard to pinpoint, but he'll be coming through Seattle in July. He was stoked to hear we'll ride along with him wherever / whenever we can on his stint through Seattle metro. I think he's just south of Portland at the moment.. Will call him before we head to Salem tomorrow. Details coming!
And of course -- the Portland Push crew... when's the next one I wonder?!
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Hmmmm......
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On 6/21/2006 SS
wrote in from
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Yes James, I understand completely.
I guess I didn't really mean it that way.
It would be more of a way to spread the stoke than anything else.
But I guess I was thinking of economies of scale.
In thoery the more decks Roe can sell the less each deck would cost to
manufacture.
But perhaps that sort of economic theory does not apply here?
Anyway it was just a thought.
I hope you and everyone here is doing well and pumpin' up a storm.
Cheers
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Roe
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On 6/21/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
(64.236.nnn.nnn)
SS - I've always been into LDP for the ride above all else. Roe's supported our niche for years now, and helped it evolve.
Increase sales? A hand-made carbon fiber deck at Gareth's price barely breaks even. From the inception of "Roe slalom", Gareth's goal has always been to get people on decks and riding. That matches my philosophy. The wireless device testing business is how I make money. How I have fun, is riding and testing boards, and the quality of the Roe LDP speaks for itself.
Time to get some pumps in -- its "Go Skateboarding Day" after all!
thanks -jp
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Roe Decks....
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On 6/21/2006 SS
wrote in from
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Hey all!
James check out Yandall's Skogging forum.
It sounds like he may be interested in some Roe decks.
Possibly the LDP model or a signature model of his own.
Could be a cool way to increase sales of the Pavedwave LDP deck.
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Sunday's Pump Madness
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On 6/21/2006
Double D
wrote in from
United States
(67.40.nnn.nnn)
Thanks, JP, for a ton of fun on Sunday.I'm totally fired up now on distance riding. Now, I just need to get these arch cramps handled. Got them again on a 8 mile ride this morning. Very frustrating! Anyway, Sunday's ride was Great. Can't believe how many people showed up. The Gospel is spreading! Thanks for all your hard work, and all that you've done for this discipline. Can't wait for the next event. Green River?
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ldp california
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On 6/20/2006 derek
wrote in from
United States
(24.16.nnn.nnn)
are there any flatland distance skate events down in southern california? i didn't see anything on the contest calendar, but that would be awesome. it would be nice to check out a few of those great trails, meet some more riders, and have an excuse for a nice vacation.
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july and august LDP events
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On 6/20/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
(64.236.nnn.nnn)
MS Skate August 27th is coming...but not soon enough! -- so we're definately planning another LDP event in July.
I'll soon have MS brochures to distribute as part of volunteer effort again. If any of you want to promote this as well, I'll get extras.
This year the MS Skate brochure uses a skateboard as the logo!! HUGE thanks to Trish Alexander and the speedskaters of SkateJourneys for supporting and promoting long distance skateboarding, three years running!
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Back truck w/Carver front
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On 6/20/2006 SS
wrote in from
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Carver 6.5" trucks are 160mm.
So if you use a 180mm in back it will be wider than the front.
And Indy 169 works very well.
The back carver is an exact match.
I used to run a Carver Cx front with an Original S6 (150mm) in back.
I used Flywheels (76mm center set) on the front and Gumballs (76mm offset)
on the back.
That set up gave equal width tracks front and rear.
Other similar combos could be created.
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Monkeying with Trucks
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On 6/20/2006
Andrea
wrote in from
Canada
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I'm setting up a second board for LDP (it is shorter than my Big Bug, so if actually fits in my trunk for when I have a full car of commuters), and I was going to buy a Carver for at least the front. Could I use one of the (unmatched) trucks I already have for the back? My options for the back are:
180mm Randal, or
180mm Indy-style truck
Would either of these work, or would it be heaps better to just go ahead and get the back Carver? Thanks in advance.
(Wow, the Solstice Skate sounds like a crazy good time! I love the pic of all the boards lying quietly at rest...)
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solstice
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On 6/19/2006
derek
wrote in from
United States
(24.16.nnn.nnn)
yeah marcy marc!
nice riding yesterday- and mighty impressive that you chose to commemorate your first distance cruise with a shiny new scar on the knee.
i'm interested in that landy dh, so let's talk.
and erin- yeah, the whole gig was great! it was a trip to see so many longboarders out on that trail, pumping, pushing, everything. i think there were more out there yesterday than i've seen in the past 5 years on the trail combined. 9 boarders started the event, and 8 finished. (When he reached it, Skip refused to cross the finish line. But he did set the world record for the closest ever DNF...) :) i haven't seen all the times yet, but there were people all over the board, some riding for style, and others, like myself, who gave up on looking good a long time ago...
the redhook brewery was perfect- we got a table out on the deck, in the sun (sometimes) and drank beer and ate pub food. Because there's nothing like getting your body running at full capacity for an hour, then adding beer to it.
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Solstice LDP
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On 6/19/2006
Marc Moberg
wrote in from
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I had a blast yesterday, and I plan on doing this more often. I am looking into getting a something similar to a Big Bug for future endevors. Thanks to all for the good times, a new knee scar, gumball and bushing kabobs, and a sweet t-shirt.
BTW- Derek, I have a Landy DH for sale. email me if you want info.
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solstice pics
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On 6/19/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
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munson, all a team effort! thanks-- most of all its great to see the LDP community pickin up steam.
we'll get this streamlined so we end up longer in the bar next time ;-)
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solstice
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On 6/19/2006 peters
wrote in from
United States
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erin, check out the contest calendar results page, there will be more detailed mention on SF soon. just takin a day to recover ;-)
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solstice skate
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On 6/19/2006
Erin
wrote in from
Canada
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Hey guys how about a little more detail about the 'outlaw' solstice skate? Sounds like it was a good time. How many skaters, what was the route like, did everyone pump, what kind of set ups and what kind of times were clocked?
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solstice skate
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On 6/19/2006 derek
wrote in from
United States
(24.16.nnn.nnn)
peters-
thanks for all the work you put into organizing the solstice skate. it was awesome getting out with a bunch of riders and hitting the trail, then heading off to the redhook brewery for beers and lunch. nice work bro!
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mixed duros
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On 6/19/2006 peters
wrote in from
United States
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hey kris, i'll usually run a white front + red back, because the trail I ride most the time runs from very poor to good asphalt, so this keeps my setup ready for anything. But if I knew most of the trails/paths were "good to excellent" I'd bump up to a green front + white rear, or even a yellow front + green. This is based on the chart:
red 73a
white 77a
green 80a
yellow 84a
I sometimes also ride the purple 72a's from purpleskunk for cruising ANYthing, like riding right over boulders ;-)
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Avila duros for l d p?
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On 6/19/2006
Kris
wrote in from
United States
(69.106.nnn.nnn)
Can someone recommend a good split-duro combination for Avila's for medium to long distance pumping? Also, should either the front, rear or both sets be trimmed, or should the lips be left alone?
Thanks,
Kris
Sacramento
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seismic tracker combo
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On 6/19/2006 silversurfer
wrote in from
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Paul Howard runs a tracker rt-x front truck with a seismic back truck for slalom on his subsonic pauliwog deck. At least he used to.
But that's slalom and not LDP so I'm not sure.
Seismics are ok for quick slalom type turning.
Not so much for sharper u turn type situations.
Experiment I guess.
I don't really think a seismic would be a good ldp front truck but I could be wrong. Some people love them and some people hate them.
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Seismics
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On 6/18/2006 G7enn
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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I used to swear by mine for pumping until I got a decent slalom board. I had Yellow sprung 157s and flashbacks. I suspect that the 130's would be slightly better for being narrower. My 157s were the 'good' ones (german?) with the clip on the kingpin and the 8mm axles as standard. What I didn't like was the way the trucks ran dead straight when pushing. Seems like a stupid point but I like a board you can adjust the direction of while pushing...
I improved my pumping board slightly with a an old Indy and then a tracker on the back.
If you don't get on with a pair of 130s you might enjoy one of them with something else on the back. I've never tried a seismic on the back and something else on the front but i'm sure i've read on NCDSA of slalomers who get on with that combination.
If you have the bits and the time, just try every combination, see if it works. In the winter I spend more time late at night swapping things around than I do skating. Stupid things pup into my head. I tried an Indy on the front and a Tracker on the back of my park board (now back to a pair of '70s Indys) and even had a Randal on the front of my bigger park board. Now the weather is better i'm spending more time actually riding which is possibly more healthy...
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pumping
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On 6/16/2006
oldnbroken
wrote in from
United States
(66.69.nnn.nnn)
Seismic 130 for pumping.
So the question is, does a regular Seismic 130mm set (non geezered)also work well as an LDP truck set.
I am guessing the 8mm axles made things roll truer and have better contact but i wonder if anybody has done LDP on the normal 130mm set?
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