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avilas, trim or not
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On 7/14/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
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With trimmed Avilas you may get very slight improvement in pump response/rebound in generating flatland speeds. But the trimming mod mostly helps when you're doing high speed turns, it reduces the nasty effect of the outer lip 'curling' up and making the wheels skitter, rather than smoothly sliding across the pavement. I don't trim Avilas on my LDP board, mainly because I'm running narrow hangars and I like the stability of the wider wheel patch.
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Avilas- to trim or not to trim for LDP?
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On 7/12/2006
Kris
wrote in from
United States
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I will be getting my trucks and wheels tomorrow. I'm wondering if folks recommend trimming Avilas for long distance pumping.
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pacific northwest ldp events
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On 7/12/2006
derek
wrote in from
United States
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what a bummer that 2 of the only long distance/cross country skating events of the year are being held on the same day, and only a few hours drive apart-the MS skate in seattle and the portland push.
hopefully next year we can do something to bring the portland and seattle crews together for a ride. it's a small enough niche in this sport as it is...
both events are being held on Sunday, August 27th. On august 26th, the day before the seattle ms skate, there are tentative plans to host a series of one-mile races in marymoor park, followed by a ride out to the redhook brewery. it would be great to see some of our portland buddies (heck- everybody) there...
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roe ldp and crossfire38"
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On 7/11/2006 peters
wrote in from
United States
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hey Ravn, the two boards you're looking at are practically identical in composition, mainly the shaping is different - the crossfire 3.8 has more of a traditional 'surf' shape-- its a lengthened, widened Roe Crossfire. For LDP, works great for those who usually stand farther toward the back of the deck, with their front foot behind the front truck, over the max cambered area, and has a wider back end for powering off the rear. I've set up and tested it for LDP, then switched to Holeys front and rear and shredded up one of our best GS slalom hills-- its a light and flexy carver as well! So I kinda see the Roe LDP for dedicated flatland pumping and the Crossfire38 for an all-in-one carver/pumper. They both rip! btw - Cool vid!
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The waiting is the hardest part...
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On 7/10/2006
Kris
wrote in from
United States
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I don't purchase new gear often. In fact, I don't purchase much of anything very often. So as I wait for the components to arrive, piece by piece, leading up to my complete LDP set-up, the anticipation is killing me.
Since I ordered my deck from Roe last week, I have broken two kingpins trying to make my current set-up do something it's not designed to do: LDP! I have, however, managed to develop a strong, sustainable pump on conventional trucks and a 48" 9-ply maple downhill deck. I am willing to bet that, much like wine grapes that are forced to struggle to develop their exquisite flavor, my LDP skills will be brought to fruition through my current adversity-training.
Great LDP video! That looks like a great trail. Nice multi-tasking there, as well! I've been wanting to do an LDP safari in the Netherlands, which looks similar. Maybe next summer...
On a side note, you can check out our Sacramento Longboarding online magazine and see our recent downhill event, BTC's 1st Annual Road Rash Rally. The pics aren't the best, but you'll get the idea. We are already talking about a flatland race, as well, as soon as we can find a bike trail that is open to roller sports:
http://sacramentolongboarding.blogspot.com
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Comparison-Roe LDP and Crossfire 3.8
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On 7/10/2006
Stryker
wrote in from
United States
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Ravn, Peters is the oly person I know of that has ridding both decks extensively. He will be the one to get feedback from. I believe that it all depends on personal prefence. They are both killer decks! L8er John
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flaeming
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On 7/10/2006 derek
wrote in from
United States
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ravn-
that's awesome! nice work.
the pavement and scenery look great there. i can't wait to check out that trail! i'm planning an early summer trip out there, probably around mid june. erin said she's interested in getting out there as well...
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Skating in Flaeming
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On 7/10/2006
Ravn
wrote in from
Germany
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Skating video from Flaeming -
Click here for link
Best regards, Ravn.
PS: Nobody's got LDP experience with the Roe PS Crossfire? (see somewhere below)
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........and stuff
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On 7/10/2006 munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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What i was trying to get at was, If it works for you, go head, if not try somthing else?
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RII's and stuff
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On 7/10/2006
munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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Marc,
i used 180's for a while, then got some 160 downhill's, using a 180 baseplate on the front and the downhill baseplate on the back, wedging and dewedging, swapping the front bushings for white kiro's, it can work, but you would be better off using 150's, i've never used siesmics and i must be the only one who cant get on with the 'CX'?
I'm now using Tracker RTX/RTS 106mm with 72a flashbacks, works for me, but i cant help thinking about cutting down my RII 180s to around about the same width, bit like splitfires?
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randals and seismics
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On 7/10/2006
tarin
wrote in from
Denmark
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i was riding randal 2 180's for a while, marc, and they were all right, but pumping with the cx's is just so much easier. search through the last 100 posts or so for conversation about pumping with seismics, there was some interesting stuff about a month ago on the topic.
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Nevermind
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On 7/9/2006
Marc
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Nevermind, I will prolly go with something more traditional like CX's or something.
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LDP trucks
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On 7/8/2006
Marc
wrote in from
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What do you all think of randal 2's or seismics for LDP?
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ldp board
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On 7/6/2006
tarin
wrote in from
Denmark
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ive just ordered a roe ldp board myself, and a wee birdie sent me old cx trucks gratis, pro bono! im having a great time riding them around and its so much easier to ride against the wind and up inclines now!
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LDP vs Crossfire
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On 7/6/2006
Ravn / Dominik
wrote in from
Germany
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Hey all,
Hey peters, thanks for the warm welcome. Maybe you can help me:
I have finally decided to get myself a Roe LDP now (oh, the decision was not so hard. I'm totally hooked).
A friend of mine is considering to also get a Roe deck for distance pumping, but he is hesitating as to whether he should get an LDP deck or one of those long Crossfires. Could you tell us where the main differences are? Do you have enough space for your front foot on a Crossfire, or will your toes hang? Have you used the crossfire or both for LDP? What's your impression?
Thanks in advance, Ravn
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distance ride through seattle
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On 7/4/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
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Here's the tentative route for later in the day on the 5th. Trevor's taking more time in Chehalis to recoup but hopes to get through Tacoma tomorrow by noon.
http://www.wayfaring.com/maps/show/19719
He would likely hit the Interurban somewhere around Federal Way up to Burke through North Seattle from 3 or 4 p.m. on the 5th (Weds) until dark ---any local takers, drop in on the trail!
p.s. Kris, sent you some hardware info...
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'Who likes long bolts.....we like long bolts!'
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On 7/4/2006
Munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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Hey LDP'ers,
long time....hope your all well?
I've found the best place over here for bolts is car factors, i'm asuming you get the same sort of thing over your side of the water, here they sell patent parts for cars, tools for mechanics and bolts for car mantainance, aswell as many other auto related stuff, the one i'm using is able to get me 'M5'(this is the thickness or thread size), countersunk allen key bolts, (the call them socket head) in steel or even stainless, from 40mm/ 1 1/2" anything upto 80mm/ 3 1/4" (or bigger) long, they are much cheaper as they sell them in singles, they also carry the 'nylock' nuts.
The hardware or D.I.Y. places only seem to have slot or cross head and are never the same quality as the auto trade use.
Since finding i'm wedging alot for slalom and LDP, i've been thinking of selling on e-bay, as there doesn't seem to be anyone skate related doing them long enough for the 1" of riser + deck + truck base plate we all seem to need???
I hope this helps.
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roe ldp
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On 7/3/2006 Erin
wrote in from
United States
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I actually like to wedge my CX's on the front and dewedge slightly on the rear. As for hardware, I get most of mine a fastener wholesale place.
Have fun with the new board!
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settin' up the Roe LDP
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On 7/3/2006
Kris
wrote in from
United States
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Happy/proud to say I ordered a Roe LDP deck today. I will be setting it up with Carver CX trucks (the front & rear combo) and Avilas- 77a in the front and 73a in the rear.
My questions are about the riser pads. My understanding for the front is 1.5" plus a shock pad, no angled wedging. Is this correct. For the rear, I know I should de-wedge, but how much?...One single 1/2 inch angled riser? 2 of them? And should I use a shock pad?
Also, any tips on hardware? Where can I find bolts long enough? Skateshop or the hardware store?
Thanks in advance.
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seattle distance ride on the 4th!
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On 7/2/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
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The Astoria bridge was a no-go, so Trevor was forced to shoot down to the Longview bridge and still made great time, he's in Centralia tonight, and will stay either in Tacoma or North Seattle tomorrow night, depending on whether his legs are cookin or not. Either way it looks like a 4th of July ride with him on some Seattle/north-of-Seattle stretch, anyone who's game for riding alongside a short stint drop a line!! pavedwave@comcast.net
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mexico to canada progress
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On 7/1/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
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update on Trevor doing the Mex-to-Canada trip -- he's making great time and expecting to be rolling through Seattle July 4th! drop a line if you can push or pump a few miles...
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in beat weiner
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On 7/1/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
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We'll be doing a lot of weekenders and keep you updated -- to keep on the 'ride' list just shoot a mail to pavedwave@comcast.net -- hoping to work a Vanc BC trip in as well! The one in-betweener "event" we were talking about was originally July 15/16 but if it happens I think it will be late July or mid-August now. Keep in touch!
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In-betweener idea
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On 6/29/2006
Erin
wrote in from
Canada
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How about the weekend before the MS skate, an 'inbetweener'. Could be on the Centennial Trail. And preferrably not a totaly crack-o-dawn start time.
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Inbetweener
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On 6/29/2006
Marc
wrote in from
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There was talk of a LDP event in between the solstice and the MS skate. Any word on when?
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ms skate - last early registration spam
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On 6/29/2006
peters
wrote in from
United States
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spam is good. its salty and it makes you want to drink more beer.
registration by June 30th is $35, goes up after that!
http://www.active.com/event_detail.cfm?event_id=1339955
Ravn - berlin weather sounds a lot like seattle, we never know how it'll turn out but in general the summers are perfect. when its nice its realllly nice here. the MS Skate happens rain or shine - although its usually been nice that weekend! if its not, we'll all pull our bearings out at the end and throw 'em in a jar of motor oil :-)
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