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Chico, Ca Longboard Push Race in Febuary
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On 7/25/2011
OAM
wrote in from
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In Febuary. I forgot the day . just go to Boards on Nord on Nord Avenue Chico Ca
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Chico, Ca Longboard Push Race in Febuary
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On 7/25/2011
OAM
wrote in from
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$1000 first place.Push 6 miles through Bidwell park flatground.10 dollar registration Boards on Nord. Be their everyone who registers get 10 raffle tickets.2nd place complete longboard . 3rd place longboard deck.8:00 am. Be their if your not racing somewhere else. flood the streety with skaters
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New forum name, new moderator!
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On 7/25/2011
Adam
wrote in from
United States
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From the webmaster..
Please welcome LDP legend James Peters as the moderator of the newly renamed Pumping forum, now called Long Distance Pumping (LDP).
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RAGBRAI
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On 7/23/2011
peters
wrote in from
United States
(24.19.nnn.nnn)
DUDES! There's this guy Blake who's skateboarding across the state of Iowa in the famed RAGBRAI starting tomorrow!! Freaking awesome. 454+ (or so) miles across the state in a week.
whoisblake.com
http://thewaterproject.org/community/profile/blake-anderson
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cyber mile
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On 2/27/2011
stevie
wrote in from
United States
(68.4.nnn.nnn)
I want to get a cyber mile session going, for serious times. 100% pumping. South Los Angeles County, sometime this spring 2011. Possible locations: LA River Trail, Santa Monica Bay beach trail, Long Beach beach trail. Start mode, either from stop or at speed, to be decided. Who's interested?
Stoked to be back to the original NCDSA format. Thanks Adam!
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Going the Distance for a cause!
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Skaterbuilt Conekiller H Pump Tweaking
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On 4/24/2009 Timmy Nizzle
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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Howdy guys - Ive recently got a Skaterbuilt Conekiller Hybrid, running Bennett Vectors up front on a 1/4 riser and wedge with the standard Bennett bushings, with Tracker RT on the back with Black Khiros and just a 1/4 riser. All rolling on Seismic Hotspots 2 Blue and 2 Purples.
Ive been using this for loose hybrid runs and avoiding cones effectively enough. My problem is pumping - and the fact that I need to practice my flat land pumping to get serious speed out of the turns.
Now - I know two things are important in slalom, the rider and how he has tweaked his setup. Rider and style/technique is all down to me and to sort this out I have decided to ignore the hill for a bit and cruise about pumping the flats.
To help me - What would YOU do to teak this board specifically for Pumping power?
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Shorty pumpers
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On 1/6/2009 Pre-School Rider
wrote in from
United States
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Bart, I'll add this, as I've still got some 'dicey' mid-70's rides that're short, with turny trucks; Invest in Khiro's multiple-angle wedge kit. It'll allow you to change up wedge angles on the trucks, which will affect steering input greatly. Follow the basics from what Slalomers use (dewedged rear, wedged front), but in smaller angle changes (it is a REALLY SHORT wheelbase!), along with, basically, stiffer rear bushings and somewhat softer front bushings. DO NOT mount Randals or similar trucks that push the axles inwards, stick with 'conventional' axle-over-pivot trucks (Seismic might be an exception?), and in that, heavily consider Trackers or Invaders, because they won't 'oversteer', yet respond well to both wedges and bushing tweaks.
My old Caster (from '78) works best with 7" axled Trackers, 5* wedge up front, -6* at the rear, 80A bushings F, 90A R, and fat, sticky, 83A to 75A wheels, for commuter pumping and pedestrian SlaLom, and it's got a 13-1/3" wheelbase. My Hobie Parkrider has had similar set-ups (narrower axles) most of it's 32 years it's been rolling, and remains one of my fave rides. ;-)
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pumping
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On 1/5/2009 dominic james batchelor
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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colllllllllll
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Pumping Board
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On 9/7/2008 bart
wrote in from
United States
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awesome. thanks man!
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pocket pumper
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On 9/7/2008
peters
wrote in from
United States
(24.18.nnn.nnn)
just know that the arbor pocket's going to be super stiff and pretty narrow. no flex in the equation, and with that short of a wheelbase all the pumping is going to be small and wiggly. mini's are fun for getting around, but it's just a whole different animal. personally I think something like a wider 33" GS board with a 22" wheelbase is a good middle ground.
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Pumping Deck
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On 9/6/2008 bart
wrote in from
United States
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think an arbor pocket rocket would work at all? I know it's short, but i'm not trying to go super far. it's 26 by 7.5 inches.
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pumping complete
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On 9/6/2008
peters
wrote in from
United States
(24.18.nnn.nnn)
bart, i'd really lean toward a board with a tighter rear truck and looser front, something more standard like tracker RTX front and RTS rear. the sidewinder is heavy, tall, and trucks are same front and back --really designed more for carving hills rather than pumping flats. to really have the whole thing set up and dialed right, AND at a reasonable cost, i really think the sk8kings AXE is one of the sweetest deals out there (AXE 2, 2.5, or 3)
the AXE is a shorter board, designed for fast pumps through cones, also works great for short commutes. if you want to get into bigger longer pumps, then start looking into LDP boards. but you might find it easier and more encouraging to start on these shorter setups.
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Pumping Deck
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On 9/6/2008 bart
wrote in from
United States
(69.105.nnn.nnn)
thanks. Sounds good. Any ideas on the length of the deck, wheel base and flex?
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Sector Nine Sidewinder
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On 9/5/2008 Sparky
wrote in from
United States
(206.123.nnn.nnn)
Well, personally, I only noticed the momentum built on this board. I can feel it on my old(Old, 4 years!) Cosmic board, barely, and it takes a s#@! load to pump it. I have to get to speeds far past my Evening Session. Get a board where you don't have to get too fast to begin carving, that's probably the first step. Then, rotate your hips with the board, bringing the weight rather like you would if you were using pivots(Ha! Beat a half mile doing that s#@!. >.> ) Aside from that, the main reason I suggest a board with sidewinders is that they're the easiest to feel acceleration. Just try a hard heel-side turn, you'll feel it, trust me, I did the first time I tried carving on it. Aside from that, if you don't have sidewinder's available, go down to your local park with a skate-key/tool and loosen your trucks as far as you're comfortable. I learned at the park, and if not, there's probably somebody there who can tell you or show you. If your board has a kick tail, bet 'em forty that they can't kickflip it in three tries, that way the trip wasn't *totally* useless. xD
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pumping board?
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On 9/4/2008 bart
wrote in from
United States
(69.105.nnn.nnn)
Hey, so I was gonna try to start pumping, and I was wondering what a good setup might be. I don't need optimal performance or anything, just something cheapish and easily accessible. I am really just curious about what kind of deck (naming a certain model would be really helpful) and what kind of trucks.
thanks
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77mm Black Ops
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On 8/7/2008
James Simpson
wrote in from
United States
(24.155.nnn.nnn)
I just wanted to thank Dan for creating my all time favorite wheel--77 Black Ops Speed Vent. I've been riding since 1989, and I have never felt so comfortable on a wheel as I do with his. The 77mm Black Ops in Blue and Purple have convinced me to jump the Abec 11 ship and sail the Seismic wave of speed, control, and quality.
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Wheels
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On 7/24/2008 lonerider
wrote in from
United States
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Hey Munchh... I just visited here for the first time in like 7-8 months myself. Last I heard, Peters gave the SpeedVents a thumb up for pumping here a link to his gear page I just double checked ( http://home.comcast.net/~jampet99/rides/gear01.html ). I've been pumping my Roe Mermaid LDP once in a while on my 2.5 mile way to work - haven't really been checking online as I've been wasting all my time on snowboarding forums.
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Alternatives to Pink BigZigs?
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On 7/17/2008
munchh
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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Blimey, whats going on here??
Hi all its been a while, just wondered if anyone has used speedvents for thier LDP setup?
As there seems to be a shortage on Pink Bigzigs over here, the next option is the vents, so any input would be cool as i dont want to buy anymore stuff thats not quite right, id rather order and pay international shipping on the Zigs.
Cheers.
Munchh
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and i keep going......
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On 5/10/2008 Mr. Grinch
wrote in from
United States
(71.88.nnn.nnn)
as well, i've found my carveboard to be so responsive to front foot or back foot pressures when in turns, i really notice if i've exhausted my legs and can't adequately transfer my weight as much as needed to keep gyrating the board to maintain speed. i don't mean i just notice the speed loss, i feel through my feet, calves, and thighs when speed, weight distribution, transfer, gyration, and all else doesn't fall in line. this includes minute misjudgements of elevation change for speed gain (combined with proper/improper powering during turns). the most frustrating thing is the wind. back in nor cal, this was critical. certain spots with certain winds (generally, during summer, nw flow is standard, so that made it kinda easy during that season). here, yeah, it surely plays a role, but moreso now i find some complications i didn't have to deal with out west. hell, the surfaces here are generally worse too, that makes for spot selection complications too. but oh how i love a good run where every bounce and turn is in place. where power is well put and speed carried through turns becomes more speed at the right time, or enough speed to make it through flat areas with a little well placed displacement. the feeling of my legs when they are drained of energy to keep a good run going. getting the tires right along a curb and powering a turn back into more speed. i got new tires last fall, and it was great to watch the molding line on the tires, the flashing, scrub off from riding. the stripe (i don't know why it was there, but a thin red stripe) being scrubbed off. new tires really brought the life back. heelside had become less speed generative than toeside, for sure. but new grip brought it all back. i pushed so hard last week i even fell a few times. i never fall on my carveboard. i don't mean pushing as in one foot on the board one foot on the pavement. i mean the grip occasionally was enough for my feeling of weight to surpass a correct displacement and actually bog the tires almost like bogging a rail in surfing (but in an opposite way, if that makes any sense.....hard to explain). too much pressure on the front foot, i suppose. i need to get video, but i fear even that won't show exactly what's going on. i'm not on flat land, but i'm not going downhill. i look for something like a wave face. a slanted stretch of asphalt to work across. or a bunch of slants and whatever transitions between them. it doesn't look like much, but considering the grip and angles that the rider can pitch themselves at, it all adds up. then again, to a snowboarder using a carveboard as a cross trainer, that wouldn't be much use, going down hill and practicing edge control and speed scrubbing would. but i'm going for the surf feel. endless bottom turns are only so good. eventually, you need to practice cutting back, top turns, roundhousing, pulling in, finding minute places to increase speed. this is where i find my joy out of the water. this is how i do it. i remember a rather large parking lot in novato, ca, where i used to exhaust myself before even getting to the bottom. i had learned how to go up hill, in a sense. kinda like tacking during sailing. go ten feet down hill to generate speed, and go back up eleven feet before repeating the process. i have noticed a problem in the surf, though. i get used to multiple pumps during a turn (to get as much speed out of a turn in surfing, it doesn't take as much gyration as on the carveboard, but that has to do with the mediums either form of boarding is requisite to), and find myself shorting a turn in surfing when i should have carried it out longer. but that usually goes away after a few waves. another funny thing is debris. sure, those large 8 inch tires can roll over a lot of things, but when those tires are at the edge of sliding, gripping right at the edge, even small pebbles can spoil the ride. like i said, i don't like to straighten out, keep it rail to rail, always put power down. maybe that'd by a few toeside pumps in a row, or a few heelside, or a stretch of alternations, but never just going straight and relaxing. don't get me wrong, i thing the people who do controlled slides on rubber are pushing for sure. but i've never found much actual use for sliding since there usually isn't any way to keep the speed up, which results in either riding switch, or having to put the pushfoot back on the ground. basically, i love being right on that edge of grip, where power becomes speed through a turn, and my body is going one direction, and the board is being maneuvered askew, but still to follow the path. this summer is going to be interesting.....
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might shoulda put this in freecarving, but the workout kinda eschews that
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On 5/10/2008 Mr. Grinch
wrote in from
United States
(71.88.nnn.nnn)
so, i look at things in a different way. i have flitted with the ideas of sand boarding, but since i've moved to the north east, i'm glad i never dropped a dime on it. what does that have to do with skating? well, after getting quite involved in longskates, i took up surfing when i lived in nor cal a number of years ago. since i was a skater before surfing, i had an advantage (except for the equalizer: you have to catch the wave first, or else the best legs and board in the world mean nothing). but, i remained a skater as well. i had also bought a carve board, and i'm a huge fan of what they're capable of. no matter what, i hardly see anyone (well, only via youtube these days, but that's not the point) putting them to their full potential use. "s#@!, this guy is random, he's gone from sand boarding, to sakting, to surfing, to carveboarding, and i still don't know why the hell he posted yet...." yeah, whatever. my point is hard to define quickly. i understand the adrenaline rush that comes with speed. i'm still hard pressed to go surfing up this way unless it's head high or better. so, as a cross trainer, the carveboard has helped keep my mind, balance, legs, and whatever else all in line. well, much more than not being able to ride in a manner at least similar to surfing. the riding style that i find most useful isn't going down hill. it isn't short shots at a slanted driveway. i look at pavement (and sand as a possibility, this is why i brought up sandboarding. i'll try to tie that up later, but i'll stick with wheels and fins for the moment) differently, for sure. i don't care about down hill runs. i don't actually like sliding the rubber tires, too much speed is lost and if you wanna slide rubber on a ramp, well, smaller diameter urethane is better. i look for well planned drainage. almost like a pool skater (my most favored riding when i was more into urethane wheels). i want to work across something. yeah, it takes effort. i can feel the difference in a half pound of air pressure in the tires now. i've had my carveboard for seven years or more. i should probably buy a new deck, but i'm used to the feeling and like what's going on with what i've got. i know if i'm running too high or low a pressure (as well as if the fronts are too high or low, the rears are too high or too low, and if i should bring them closer or vary them more since i run the fronts higher than the rears). if the griptape is a little worn, i feel the smallest energy transfer lost as a foot slides even a little bit. i feel the wheels bobble when i transfer power a fraction of a second too soon, but can usually compensate and keep the momentum up. keep in mind, a carveboard weighs almost 20 pounds. it is one thing to let gravity do it's job. it's another to really displace your weight and keep speed, or find speed when there isn't much elevation difference to provide actual gravity speed. i'm talking about really putting the power down. right at the edge of sliding, putting and keeping the grip of the tires right to the maximum. always on edge, never straighten out. leading with the front foot, powering from the back foot. hahahaha, a problem i've found, though, is letting my head get too carried away. thinking and feeling i'm surfing though i'm not. the problem comes when i push like i would on a surfboard and the bottom and fins would hold the turn, but on asphalt, the tires and board can't hack it and a slide isn't always the result, a botched run usually is. the oddest thing is the tire bobble. usually the rear axle. i've never looked at it happen, i'm looking at where i'm going, but i feel it happen. it's not even so much a skip but a few bounces. luckily, it usually happens after powering the rear, and transitioning from toeside to heelside when cranking hard and quick. i need to get some footage of this stuff. i've turned small parking lots (10 cars or so) into impossible runs that give jelly legs quite quickly. i need video to show what i mean. so, this is carving, pumping, kinda slalom in a way (have to get every bit of minute elevation change right, and maximize speed generation from it), certainly much soul. still, i look at sandboarding, and wonder, why don't they find those parts of dunes (i've seen pictures that spawn the thoughts) and ride across them? might not be as fast, but certainly a much much longer ride, and though it might be generally heelside or toeside, a very unique discipline and challenging riding style for sure. i guess this would all be akin to riding a one sided bank. as opposed to the halfpipe like one side then the other side style of bank/bowl riding. very surf oriented. yeah, here in connecticut, they don't know what the f#@! to think of a carveboard. most people think i'm learning how to ride a dirtboard. hell no. these carveboards are like the formula 1 of skateboards, but even that isn't quite right. i've found glory where nobody seems to be looking.
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Wheel Hype Overload
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On 5/10/2008
James
wrote in from
United States
(24.155.nnn.nnn)
Morning All,
Just inquiring into some info. for a wheel that is truly a great all around wheel for pumping. I am tired of sifting through all of the media hype from manufacturers as well as those who have bought into the hype. Aside what most will tell me--Get some Big Zigs, are there other alternatives that will really carve up semi-rough to semi-smooth terrain?
Cheers,
James
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pumping closed circuit
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On 5/8/2008
u-pumper
wrote in from
United States
(66.245.nnn.nnn)
Hello all, I haven't been here for a while, I've been getting the kids ready for college. I just posted a clip on YouTube: "Millennium Park pumping". I do mostly straight line and intermediate distances, and the occasional empty parking lot. This partially finished ice skating rink was a lot of fun, and I hope you get to do some flat laps like this.
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bennetts
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On 5/3/2008
Mark
wrote in from
United States
(67.126.nnn.nnn)
Hi, I was wondering what size bennett truck I should get for a ldp about 10 inches wide up front with a 29" wheelbase. 7.0? Also What would be a good truck for the back? Tracker RTX? Anyhow, thanks for the input and inspiration!
Cheers,
Mark
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carpe diem
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On 3/22/2008
peters
wrote in from
United States
(24.18.nnn.nnn)
riding on a sunny day with the mp3 blasting dubba-high C's and some funky grooves, just gotta grab it here in the northwest when we can!
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How to Pump