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Arch
On 5/31/2005 will j wrote in from United States  (70.114.nnn.nnn)

i find that for me it is the opposite, i'm flat-footed and anytime i skate in a shoe that has an arch support my feet hurt like that. i have to search for older model vans b/c the new ones have too much arch for me.

if your shoes have arch supports, try some without.
if your shoes are flat, try some support.

 
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arch/ouch
On 5/31/2005 toddc wrote in from United States  (198.39.nnn.nnn)

I find that this happens if I havenot been skating for a few months. After a few sessions, it always goes away for me. Make sure your shoes have good arch supports - buy them and add them to cheapie sneakers like vans or converse. The pain is probably from your foot flattening out as it supports your weight.

 
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feet cramps
On 5/31/2005 pg wrote in from United States  (198.151.nnn.nnn)

I've been trying to pump for long distances to help improve my slalom skating and my skating stamina. After a mile or so the arch of my feet start cramping up bad. After I get off my board my feet ache so bad I can barely walk. Does this happen to anyone else? Is there something I can do to help prevent this?

tia,

pg

 
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Skoggin is natural and I promote for ...
On 5/29/2005 Chris Yandall wrote in from United States  (68.224.nnn.nnn)

those not as futuristic.

Got Video?

SHARE!

or send them to me and I'll post it. I prefer .mov 's

MACs rule!

cYa

 
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I'm a skogger...
On 5/27/2005 vaitus wrote in from United States  (216.166.nnn.nnn)

..and I didn't know it.

Never read CYA's page until today. Skogging came natural after learning crosstepping. Even though I'm not into skogging marathons (skoggathons?) I like it for uphills and for quick bursts of speed.

 
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missing washpark pic
On 5/19/2005 Chris Yandall wrote in from United States  (68.224.nnn.nnn)



I RTFM'ed :D

 
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Pump Trucks
On 5/17/2005 Harry Tobin wrote in from United States  (66.116.nnn.nnn)

I prefer the Siesmics for every day pumping and Trackers for everyday skating.

 
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Denver - Washington Park + cYa
On 5/15/2005 Chris Yandall wrote in from United States  (65.101.nnn.nnn)



2 splendid days in washington park doing the oval street track. My daughter and her 2 buddies riding some old cYa models.

Thank you Denver~!

Chris Yandall

p.s. Jack ? call the business number if you can. 858 748 6405

SPRING TIME IN ROCKIES!!!

 
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Seismics
On 5/13/2005 airin wrote in from Canada  (142.22.nnn.nnn)

I tried my first set of Seismics yesterday. They are the 180's, set up with bright green in front and yellow in the year. I tried them on a 48 inch pintail which is a bit of a stiff board under my feet. The trucks felt a bit stiff as well. Oh don't get me wrong, they pumped better than any truck I have tried so far but they certainly aren't very dancy especially at slower speeds. I must add that I run all my trucks, even those on my speedboards, extremely loose because I like a carvy, surfy feel.
I can see that for certain situations, certain pumping routes, these trucks would be awesome in their efficiency but for a long mellow pumping/cruising skate they would not be my first choice.
Having said that, I will try a lighter, in fact the lightest, spring combo on the Seismics to see if I can get a floppier feel to the deck but still I am thinking that though these trucks may stay in my quiver they are not likely going to be the most popular truck in the collection.

 
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half-marathon (13 mile) option too!
On 5/12/2005 peters wrote in from United States  (24.18.nnn.nnn)

steve - be cool to see u at Hood this year, should be bringin' the family as well - planning to take the podium as the fastest ... conehead there.

airin - thx for comments on the site! Hoping we get a few more distance riders here in Seattle on June 19th - 13 miler is still an option!

i use seismics mostly for slalom, not much testing yet on the trails. they're great when you push and maintain a fast speed, then pump up to even higher speeds. Very tight, technical return to center. I find Originals are better for back-to-back carves, bit more mellow feel that lends itself to the longer rides. So much depends on deck flex too, so I refrain from being too religious about one setup over another -- until I've tried it anyway! Best thing is just keep buying/testing more trucks and decks, support the industry, support the habit and its a helluva lot cheaper than any form of therapy! ;-) -jp

 
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Board Carrier : Moped Pumping
On 5/11/2005 cYa wrote in from United States  (68.224.nnn.nnn)

The board carrier is made out of NASA space age rubbber elastic and key hook areas(just two). the board is one of my favorites with just 7ply maple and a bitchin mold from sector 9 .

sector9 owns! too bad they can't fund a simple project of mine. :( they dont need us old folks that helped the sport get where it today.

The skating movement today ROCKS! All of IT! vert, freestyle, downhill and sofa skating!

Chris Yandall

... the board is 38" x 9.? your guess is as good as mine. 7 ply wood . great for beginners and students of the art and a snappy flex for the right truck/wheel config.

 
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Pumping Eqpt.
On 5/11/2005 Steve in AZ wrote in from United States  (192.175.nnn.nnn)

...or use at least ONE Seismic, eh? Maybe a Stable turn 180 in back with that 8" OG in front.

The differences in return rates would make for a VERY interesting combination. I may have to try that 6" (150mm spaced to 155) OG on the front of my Bozi GS36 with the 155mm Seismic Stable in back and see what that feels like.

With, of course, 3dm wheels, self-trimmed.

-=S=-

 
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moped pumping
On 5/11/2005 airin wrote in from Canada  (142.22.nnn.nnn)

Hey I love your board carrier Chris! Pump that moped! Ha, ha, ha..... So what board is that you have there....ohhhh, it just makes me wanna jump on that thing and try it out!

 
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MOPED TO THE BEACH
On 5/10/2005 Chris yandall wrote in from United States  (63.196.nnn.nnn)




Down-to-the-Beach Mobile

 
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Danny Boy
On 5/10/2005 Chris Yandall wrote in from United States  (63.196.nnn.nnn)

Dude, nice to hear from you on a public forum :D

have you no manners? EHHHEHEHEHEHEHEHEH

we might as well document our rants here.

Of ccourse I'll have an UNBIASED site up. Tracker knows I'm riding Originals now. Interesting turning truck. feels stiff when board is on evenkeel but loose on the turns. it makes for nice pumping arcs.

perhaps you have some new trucks out that I need to try so I can get your article posted on my site!

I'll be in denver this weekend.

Let's hookup?

you owe me several beers!!!!

cYa


 
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NOOB
On 5/10/2005 chris wrote in from United States  (172.132.nnn.nnn)

I just got myself a new longboard thanks to a little gov't (re)funding ;)
it's a sector nine fiberglass/carbonfiber/maple tripple layered deck (the flexy one)
it has those reversed 150 trucks, 72mm 75a nineball wheels, and abec 3 bearings which i intend to bring up to a 7
anyways im new to the sport...ive ridden long boards before but not enough...
i dont know how to pump or slide or anything really...plus this board feels so much more different than anything I've ridden before.
not only that but i live in orlando florida...this place as you may have heard is chock full of hill! ::sigh:: the biggest hills i ever tear up are parking garages...they're fun but redundant...no where near what i would imagine a several mile downhill cruise is like...
so if you could link me to a site or give any advice that could teach me to tweak my deck for a good ride and then how to do all that cool stuff i see you guys doin in those videos and teach me some of that lingo you guys use that would totally own

 
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Pumping how-to article
On 5/10/2005 Dan Gesmer / Seismic + 3dm wrote in from United States  (63.227.nnn.nnn)

Yandall - Got your email, sorry to not respond sooner. My email backlog is a sad subject... I need to update my 1989 pumping how-to. My writing style was a bit stiff and wordy back then. Once I update it, I'd be happy to let you post the article on your site - just so long as you use Seismic trucks and wheels on all of your boards! ;-)

 
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Jack of all Pains
On 5/9/2005 Chris Yandall wrote in from United States  (68.224.nnn.nnn)

:(

dude, you're on a down-swing but stick around, things always get better for your true desires. and yes a coffee sounds good. i'll email ya when i get in town. i use ricochet(wirelass wide area network) here in san diego and it works nicely all over denver. my laptop batteries are ready to rock. you should at least come out to the skatepark and/or ride a bike while I skog. Will your wife let you come out and play? dude! ? ! wheelchair(motorized) :D ?

take some pictures of me skogging/pumping for 100 miles :P

we're all in this for the long run. and the rollercoaster of life varies for all of us. i'm thankful for all the gifts that still get thrown my way with all the rough edges here and there. we just smoooooth things out. y0

true desires shall overcome all!!!


www.cYask8.com


 
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yeah Steve.
On 5/9/2005 airin wrote in from Canada  (154.20.nnn.nnn)

Hey Steve, nice to 'see' you again. Yeah I sold the wheels to a skater in Edmonton that was doing a lot of speedboarding on the melty winter roads there. He was pretty happy with them and seemed he was fine with going fast enough to enjoy the grip and not be too put off by the slowness.
I found the wheels to be a good experience. I liked the grip, could slide 'em if I had too and the size was right. But it was a tough job to get the bearings out and without being able to service them after riding in the wet I was worried about having a bearing seize up incident.

 
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Pumpin' Updates from the Desert
On 5/9/2005 Steve in AZ wrote in from United States  (192.175.nnn.nnn)

CYa: Still not yet built the 38" Proto. I got my 6" (150mm) Originals and even with side-setters, they're too narrow for this plank. I'm gonna run Seismics, Randals, Trackers or some COMBINATION thereof. Wheels will be either Green or shades of grey.

Jack: Take it slow, bro...and nobody knows more what you're goin' through. After my little mishap with "The Bear" in '03 (Fractured skull in 2 places, ugly forearm and bruised (thankfully not broken) tailbone, just about EVERYONE seemed to think I was gonna blow out my quiver and quit skating. Turkeys, everyone of them. Still, I'm not allowed to skate in any organized "Race" without my wife in attendance. She had to fly from Phx to Abq to pick up my body...scared and pi$$ed-off all rolled into one, and I'll NEVER do that to her or my son Race again.

Next time I'm in town, we'll score a meal at Teds. Hope you're not Vegan.

Airin: Did you ever sell those sweet (slow) grippy-as-he11 Viking Rubber wheels you got from me?

Peters: The Fam & me will be at Hoodie on July 9-10. You'll be there, ya?

 
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hey hey, its you!
On 5/8/2005 airin wrote in from Canada  (154.20.nnn.nnn)

Ah so it is you! Peters! Nice! I found it really inspiring to check out your site. For the first time I actually saw pumping for any reasonable length of time. You guys seem to be having such a good time with this new skateboard sport.
I have been enjoying learning to pump on my five foot board but I can see the attraction to having a range of boards that pump well in one's quiver.
I am working on getting another LBL, 45 inch deck with nice flex, which shall sport my first set of Seismics. I am thinking that this will be my second great cruising and pumping deck.
Have you guys tried the Seismics for pumping?

 
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seattle groovin and solstice parade
On 5/8/2005 peters wrote in from United States  (64.236.nnn.nnn)

hey airin, watch out for them groove fellas, they're kinda wack ;-) Lately we've downshifted from 5-foot decks to 38"-48", trading off some deep carving speed for better incline pumpiliciousness. But there are decks for all trails, very few absolutes- and a plethora of opinions. I sporadically update www.pavedwave.com if that's the site you were thinkin of.

The bike routes you mentioned will come together on June 19th for The Seattle Solstice skate, a 26-mile event starting in Redmond WA, ending in Fremont where a slightly hedonistic Solstice parade begins, its a blast. (plus, there IS a 13-mile start option.) Hoping to get a few guys up from Portland too. Don't know if you're west or east Canada, but in case you're game, there will be yet another marathon July 31.

...and Luke, it's probably my fault they installed showers in the office :-O

cYa, thx for the vibe - maybe we'll be riding with 3-D sunglasses in the future!?
-- jp

p.s. Jack...in solidarity, I'm gonna have to post a recent lesson learned on the Crashing forum, though it still won't compare to yours. raising a drink to your speedy recovery...

 
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Still off my game
On 5/7/2005 Jack in Aurora wrote in from United States  (207.69.nnn.nnn)

CYA and all,
I'm not boarding again yet. Its got nothing to do with getting off my ass, the Dr says "No way, not yet." and the old lady says "NO WAY! NOT EVER!" She gets really pissed whenever we talk about it and the in-laws and outlaws all say its time to sell off my quiver and quit. My boss still won't let me come back to work, and I'm feeling pretty grim this evening.
My arm is making a slow comeback and the whole process is starting to piss me off. The movement is coming along slowly and it hurts like hell and really gets me to thinking whenever I can sneak a few minutes on my board. I'm probably in for another 3 months of rehab by my own estimate. In 45 years this is the first time I've ever hurt myself so bad it put my arm completely out of action and I'm scared s#@!less of getting back on a board. 6 weeks of having other people feed me, dress me and do EVERYTHING else for me has been a real wake up call. I don't ever want to have to depend on anybody for my personal needs again. Using the use of your arm(s) is a surefire way to find out exactly how much those who are close to you love you.
Anyway, before I seriously learn how to ride again, I'm buying a full crashsuit from CrashPads.COM and getting some Board Brakes for every board in my quiver. I found out the hard way that I can't slide worth a s#@! anymore and the Dr says don't try it again or the same thing in all probability will happen. When I was a kid it was fun to ignore Dr's advice, now I realize its just stupid. I'm having a hard time getting my stoke back and that may be harder to rehabilitate than my arm.
Thanks for all the positive support that you guys have given me. Friends and family who don't skateboard don't understand why I don't just sell off my quiver and take up a safe passtime. My physical therapist really flips me a lot of s#@!. Its a good thing she's got a nice caboose or I'd get rid of her quick.

CYa, the lesson is going to have to wait for another time. I'll end up in divorce court if my old lady found out I was skating before I got the okay from the Dr. I may end up there anyway. ;-)
Maybe we can get together for a drink or some coffee?
Cheers,
Jack in Aurora

God rides a longboard.

 
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grooving in Seattle?
On 5/6/2005 airin wrote in from Canada  (142.22.nnn.nnn)

A while back on SF I read about a couple of guys that were doing their kind of longboard pumping, I think they may have dubbed it 'grooving' or something like that. They were trying to connect some bike routes in the Seattle area?
Can't find their site anymore. Anyone know of these guys?
I was kind of intrigued by the fact that they seemed to be using longer boards than a lot of you who pump from a slalom background.

 
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jp got style
On 5/5/2005 cYa wrote in from United States  (68.224.nnn.nnn)

boring references repitition that even skogging reduces itself to. but i think mantra's in body movement have medicinal qualities. aint nothing like getting in a rhythm pattern of pumping long distances, your thoughts can turn 3:D !

good to see you are so jazzed to do what seems to be another viable yankee pasttime. the masses are slow to catch on but it's *all* coming. football, basketball etc all have room for stuff like this. snowboarding surfing crosstraining fits right on with pumpin and skoggin. you gottsa love it!

i enjoy this thread. thanks for the stimulation :P

cYa

 
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