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slider glove plastic
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On 1/4/2005 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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I lace mhy uhmw to the gloves by milling out small areas,just like drilling but it's a cutter that makes a flatbottom hole,then two small holes let the lace come in one hole and back down the other without being directly on the sliding surface. I prefer .250 ,but you have to be able to work accurately,i counter bore about.190 or .200, this is pretty thin but with the thinner plastic and if you round off the sides of your sliding piece it doesn't have alot of leverage to tear off if it should snag on a crack or a manhole. I also use two large pieces,one to cover the palm and one on the 4 fingers.Sometimes ive put a little piece on the gauntlet section of the glove,for getting really low down and dirty. I could sell that stuff, i have a four foot high stack of 3 by 4 foot sheets,lots of purty colors.
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Best Thickness of "uhmwpe"?
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On 1/4/2005
North Carolina Longboarder- DownHill Billies
wrote in from
United States
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Cliff,
I am getting ready to order some uhmwpe from McMaster and Carr and was curious to your recommendation on the best thickness to use. Their website lists the available thicknesses as:
.125, .25, .375, .5 (and stuff thicker)
Which thickness would you suggest? I am going to attach them with glue to leather work gloves. I have been using cutting board and your right, it just don't hold up that long if you are sliding alot. Cutting board is fine for slide gloves for safety but I have destroying pucks sliding.
Also, the widths available vary from very narrow to about 6"...the usable range seems to be between 4" and 6"...I was thinking the 4" wide would allow me to make pucks with limited cutting just shaping to contour. Got any suggestions here?
Thanks for the info in advance,
Marion Karr
North Carolina Longboarder
DownHill Billies
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Rideing this weekend in San Jose
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On 1/3/2005
Mark Johnson
wrote in from
United States
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Cliff come on down this Saturday Jan 8 at 9am. We will be doing Slalom in the morning and then hitting some hills afterwards. There a nice sliding hill and bomb run nearby, not to mention the (PG)and i will also have a fat one for you!
I would love for you to come out and share some of your skate knowledge with all the sk8ers and the newbie’s that show up.
Sparky J
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Sliding gloves
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On 1/1/2005
Jogger
wrote in from
Australia
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Just a quick word on the types of gloves to use. Alot of people use motorbike racing gloves which are ok but don't offer as much finger protection as a set of welding gaunlets. Welding gaunlets are double layered leather and some come with kevlar stitching. The Gaunlets sell for around $10 Australian so the're damn cheap too. Just go to your local hardware store and ask for them. On the topic of what to use for pucks. I'm lookin at a brick of Teflon that my mate gave me. I'm gonna see how this stuff goes, I'll get back with the results.
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new year slide
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On 1/1/2005 boyd
wrote in from
Australia
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just a couple of photos from today, starting to link those slides now on the dirt
thanks for the help, the other arm makes it happen
Click here for link
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BBC article on the Faltown guys and sliding.
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On 12/30/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Here is a link to the article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cornwall/extremesports/stories/nov_2004/faltown_skateboarders.shtml
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hands down
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On 12/27/2004 herbn
wrote in from
United States
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uhmw has of course much greater wear resistance than hdpe,i havn't used hdpe,well maybe once by accident. It could slide easier because its tearing apart but i do think uhmw was slippier. As far as your hands sliding out from under you the best advice on that is being stronger. Strength training can help, particularly shouldersm,push ups ,pulldowns, shruggs,work em in all directionsm,so when your hand trys to slide out,you just keep it in place,with muscle.
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Wowwwwww
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On 12/27/2004
João Marcelo - Billy
wrote in from
Brazil
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Man, That´s the best notice of 2004 and 2005!!!
Congratulations about your Forum man!!
Cliff very very good see you again!!
My english still bad but You Still RIP man!!
Hugs and see you soon ok??
Call me ok??
João Marcelo - Billy
Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
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Cutting Board is my favorite
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On 12/27/2004
Mark Johnson
wrote in from
United States
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Hey Cliff: is saw your post about Cutting board not being a good Idea for sliding gloves, I have to say they are my favorite surface for sliding. I have had a pair of sliding gloves for over 6 years now and the glove is falling apart but the cutting board still has a good 6 years left, I don’t have the same style as you do so this may be the reason i like the cutting board surface,(Also there is probably a bunch of differnt types of materials to make cutting boards), I don't put hardly any wait on my sliding hand, I just us it so i don’t fall on my ass, I also like the surface of the cutting board, it seems to have a little bit of resistance when sliding, this is probably a good thing for someone who is learning like me,I am still learning, the other stuff you mention is very slippery and I don’t seem to have much control of my sliding hand, some times my hand slips out from under me, yikes. Also you can go to Ross or Marshals and get a cutting board for $3.00; you can have enough material to make a pair of gloves for yourself and your friend. Just a personal note on Sliding
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Merry Christmas
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On 12/26/2004
ALEX
wrote in from
United Kingdom
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Merry Christmas Ya'll and a slidy new year. I've done the usual and eaten until I hert. I tell you I'm gonna stick to skateong-less painfull!!!
Best Wishes
Alex
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best christmas ever!
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On 12/26/2004
snakeman
wrote in from
Sweden
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christmas greetings from SWEDEN. its 10cm snow on the streets today but on christmas eve me and my friend simon slided down a steep road in stockholm in -4 degrees four a couple of hours and people all over tha place, that was the best christmas in sweden ill ever had and a perfect memory! now we are goin to have snow for a long time but now we can snowskate and snowsurf instead!
anyway, have a perfect holiday and a happy sliding 2005
erik SWEDEN
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Happy Holidays!
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On 12/24/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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I sincerely hope all skaters and especially sliders have the best Holiday Season. We are planning to skate through this holiday season. Here is a look at the weather in Berkeley, California this time of year. Copy and paste this address: "http://scienceview.berkeley.edu/view/".
Can't wait to skate,
Cliff Coleman
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tacomacalistud
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On 12/23/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Tacomacalistud,
Check here: "www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/sliding.html".
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how do i stop this thing??
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On 12/23/2004
tacomacalistud
wrote in from
United States
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i just got my sector 9 and its totaly sick cause i live right infront of a decent hill however theres a driveway to a houseing complex at the base of it and ive almost got nailed countless times, and my shoe isnt gunna stop me fast enough any advice on how to slide my sector 9 super cruser stealth?
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Merry Christmas Haggy and all in OZ!
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On 12/22/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Haggy,
Thanks for the photo. Great times, great racing, great friends. Life is good!
Happy Holidays everyone,
Cliff Coleman
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Be Merry!
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On 12/21/2004 Haggy
wrote in from
Australia
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Hey Cliff!
I like your forum, good stuff. I gotta go out sliding again soon, back to the hills in Mosman... I've been hitting the skateparks more lately, trying to learn how to ride bowls, they are so much fun.
Here's a shot of the Man and myself, not long before Cliff raced like a Bat-out-of-Hell and became Open Champ of the SuperG at the Worlds!
Happy holidays and New Year!
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Flywheels
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On 12/21/2004
Jogger
wrote in from
Australia
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Yeah but...Flywheels wont cone out because thier centre set.
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Rob
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On 12/20/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Rob,
Sliding has been around for a relatively short period of time. Most often, riders have made their own gloves. Cutting board however is not the best plastic to use. It is "hdpe", high density polyethelene. If you do many slides at speed, they will wear out right away. Instead, use "uhmwpe", ultra high molecular weight polyethelene. This will last through years of abuse.
Now that sliding is becoming larger, many opt to buy manufactured gloves. Timeship Racing just sent me a new pair with carbon fibre knuckles and uhmw pucks. These are very sweet gloves. Just go price a pair of snow board gloves and then you will see the bargain that slider gloves are in comparison. Shop around. Do a search, and then decide for your self whether to buy or make your own.
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Isaiah
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On 12/20/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Isaiah,
I think the Cherries are a little old school. They are heavy and not very resilent. The newer Abec 11 series and the 3-DM wheels have a much faster roll. Regarding the Fly Wheels, I haven't riden them. I usually find that too large of a hub without the necessary amount of Thane can cause for a harder feel to the ride. Chaput however has recognized this and added more Thane to his Fly Wheels. Some of my favorites for soft fast wheels are, Avilas 78a to 85a. Avalons from 80a to 85a, and Abec 11 Gumballs 80a to 84a.
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Eric
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On 12/20/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Eric,
I am familiar with the Slide Gear devices. Alan Sidlo is a great friend of mine, but I am not a fan of his slide devices. The material is so strong, that to have the plastic of the slider wrapped around the rider's thumb could be a problem. If it were to catch on any obstacle, it could possibly rip at the thumb, with such force, possibly leading to a severe injury. I don't like the idea that I might lose my thumb. I prefer the plastic attached to a glove.
*Remember* These are only Cliff Coleman's opinions regarding posted questions.
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Joseph
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On 12/20/2004
Cliff Coleman
wrote in from
United States
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Joseph,
I personally would go for the Gumballs with a durometer of 84 all the way around. You and I are big guys and you get more stability and durability with the wider wheel patch. They slide well and give plenty of grip when needed.
Cliff
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sliding gloves...
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On 12/20/2004 rob
wrote in from
United States
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do most people buy gloves from companys? or do the "ghetto" way and make there own.. exp.-- set of work gloves with cutting boards attached by lots of velcro..
just curious.. the ones my friends and i have made hold up really well and havent had any problems.. dont know if its worth spending the money on buying aset from a site or store.. hit me back with comments..
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fly vs cherry
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On 12/20/2004 isaiah
wrote in from
United States
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hey cliff I know theres many debates on whether flywheels or cherrries are better but from a strictly downhill/cornering slide perspective which do you think is better?
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Thanks
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On 12/20/2004 Pauliwog
wrote in from
United States
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Thanks for everyone's advice-Paul
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slidegear
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On 12/20/2004
Eric
wrote in from
United States
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Just to point out another slide glove alternative, check out www.slidegear.com. These are sliding pucks that strap to your bare hand, or over the top of a glove or wrist guard. Cliff, have you ever checked these out? Any opinions?
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