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Q&A: Cliff Coleman on Sliding and Safety (1159 Posts)
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On 1/18/2005 hc wrote in from United States  (67.123.nnn.nnn)

tom, pick up Gravity 'Flow'

http://www.geocities.com/sk8sanjose/sliding.html

hc

 
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sliding vidieo or dvd
On 1/18/2005 tom wrote in from United States  (64.12.nnn.nnn)

Hi Chris,
Are there any vids or dvds on sliding that you know of ? I skate with a bunch of guys and thier sons but none of us slide.
Thanks,
Tom

 
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coleman blood line
On 1/17/2005 nicktheripper wrote in from United States  (65.54.nnn.nnn)

cliff coleman, wahts up this is nick coleman. don't know if we ever skated with each other, i used to ride for s9, but now i ride for afroman. i grew up in san diego but i am in sacto now. if you ever make this way i would be more than happy to show some rad new parks up here. stay coolman and drop me a email if you make here....

 
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oh no!
On 1/17/2005 herbn wrote in from United States  (205.188.nnn.nnn)

you may be skating on the leftside of the road, but that doesn't make a move with a toeside turn ,frontside. To much pressure on the leading foot would unweight the back foot and the lack of traction would probabely cause thiongs to spin out of control.

 
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frontside tech Q
On 1/17/2005 AenGhooste wrote in from United Kingdom  (193.113.nnn.nnn)

Got a question on sliding.. was wondering, when doing a frontside slide when you lean forward and place both hands down I've been whipping round in a 180, is this because I'm putting to much pressure on my back foot?

On a coleman slide, which I have down, the back foot is on its side and all the weights forward so I thought thats the only difference.

 
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Faltown in San Francisco
On 1/17/2005 Alex wrote in from United Kingdom  (84.12.nnn.nnn)

Yo yo, how’s it going every body, its Alex at Faltown skateboards,

I hope you are all suitably recovered from Christmas and New Year and are feeling fine!

Myself, Chris, Mark and Tom are all coming over to San Francisco and Berkley hills to Hook up with Cliff on the 20th to Skate and film the last section of our DVD. We will be in San Francisco for the first week and Berkley Hills for the second.

We haven’t booked any were to stay yet but I think for the first week we will be in the Green Turtle Backpackers I think it is in Fisherman’s Wharf. When we land and find it I’ll post the phone number up for any one that wants to get in contact with us.

We would like to hook up for a slide/skate/film with as many people as possible so if you fancy it send me a post on our website or this one or phone the hostel when I post the number.

I hope to see some of you soon

Best wishes

Alex


P.S. Cliff we couldn’t change the flights but hunts us out when you get back from Costa. I’ll post loads of contact numbers on forum so it shouldn’t too hard-I hope!!

 
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curb sliding!?
On 1/17/2005 murray wrote in from United Kingdom  (138.38.nnn.nnn)

Marc F - props if you manage that, esp off a wall!!
Go for it, and get some pics, wudnt wanna miss that!!

 
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PUCKS
On 1/14/2005 sean wrote in from United States  (63.105.nnn.nnn)

You can get plastic all kinds. Just look up your local orthotic and prosthetic shop and stop in with some questions fore the techs about plastic and the different kinds availabe. They toss out a bunch every day.

 
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Thanks herban
On 1/14/2005 Sam Rivera wrote in from United States  (24.205.nnn.nnn)

thanks for the info about sliding. I found a sick new hill where I live and I will try the sliding on it with my dh board.

 
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Curb Slide Pics?
On 1/14/2005 Marc F wrote in from United States  (64.12.nnn.nnn)

Can someone post some pics of a rider sliding off a curb or a wall at high speed in mid air? I'm going to try it myself but was wondering if anyone has had any injuries from trying this (Example: wrist injuries from landing too hard)

Thanks
Marc F

 
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Friends
On 1/14/2005 Charlie Ransom wrote in from United States  (68.229.nnn.nnn)

Hey Cliff, Never see you anymore so just thought I would ask this question. How the hell are you? Hope things are going well! Keep up the good work, and remeber SKATERS RULE!!! BLB-BLR-ICK

 
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Re: Brazilian slide vids
On 1/14/2005 João Marcelo - Billy wrote in from Brazil  (200.179.nnn.nnn)

Hei Matt!!

Man, I have very much videos of Downhill-Slide, but in analogic format (VHS) and I can´t post this...

But, I find some digital videos (small) in my home and send to you or here ok??


If You want acess: www.diorandi.com (Website of my friend with very pics and some good videos of Downhill-Skate, but no Slides)

Go Slide!!


João Marcelo - Billy
Brazil

 
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Brazilian slide vids
On 1/13/2005 Matt wrote in from United Kingdom  (82.32.nnn.nnn)

I saw some people saying that the brazilians are good at sliding and to check their vids...can anyone reccomend some sites? I tried going through a few forums but couldnt find any and there are A LOT of posts and im lazy!!!! Sorry. Stoked to see Cliff getting his own forum.

Long live the UK slide scene

 
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THANKS!!!
On 1/11/2005 John Hutchison wrote in from United States  (24.7.nnn.nnn)

thanks so much Cliff i really apreachiate it i am going to buy some pretty soon wen i get money they look stellar John Hutchinson

 
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re sam
On 1/10/2005 herbn wrote in from United States  (152.163.nnn.nnn)

hate to say it but, fast slides and really fast slides are about the same as slow slides. ACTUALLY , they are somewhat more predictable,at speed ,wheels generally dont try to re grip once you get them sliding, it's actually a bit more likely that your wheels will slide out,but if you stay calm and maybe put a second slider glove down, and lift your ass off the pavement quickly , not much damage should occur. I think it took me maybe three runs or so ,way back in the day to escalate the speeds i was sliding at to absurd levels(it felt crazy at the time) not that i had a ton of control right away, i may have used some pads the first few times, and definitely recommend them, i never had any relly severe road pizzas from downhill sliding.I remember thinking that it was soooo cool to longer have to have tight trucks to go fast, i just rode my trucks regular and did slides near the point of speed wobbles, then,later on i had bigger boards that i would use just for dh and i'd run those trucks even looser.

 
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cliff in print
On 1/8/2005 ext 15 wrote in from United States  (209.172.nnn.nnn)

EVERYONE! Just got a new book that opens with an awesome chapter on the one-and-only Cliff-slider. Anyone that skates and can read need to get this one for sure, Scarred For Life; eleven stories about skateboarders by K.D.Hamm on cronicle books. Check it out, its cool!
Cliff hing ten for me in Costa BABY, wish I was going!

 
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sliding
On 1/8/2005 Sam Rivera wrote in from United States  (24.205.nnn.nnn)

I am just wondering how to slide going really fast? I have watched videos and can't find how to do it. please will someone tell me how to do it.

 
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radio
On 1/7/2005 herbn wrote in from United States  (152.163.nnn.nnn)

seems like some folks just need more toys(radios). I don't know the exact situations at your hills. I ride mostly solo, and blending and staying "under the radar" are my statagies. Going to a hill and insisting that your gonna ride it right now and with rides to the top,to let you ride it over and over again,until you get caught don't forget for the most part,riding hills is poaching,like grinding a ledge or handrail.If you do it constantly and don't leave after a couple rides ,sounds like your gonna have all the problems the kids got at their "favorite ledge", plus a few bonuses like the invariable 40 mph crossing paths with an suv. They don't expect you,think for a second,(why would they?) i've used gloves for they're ultimate purpose, stopping from 40 plus to avoid crossing a car that i didn't know if they're were gonna see me, they may have the stop sign you should have the "stop sense". You guys are out there directing traffic so your fun won't be interrupted.I guess you need to ride alot to get really good, and hiking a hill by yourself a couple times every couple of months doesn't cut it.

 
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Radios/Yorck
On 1/5/2005 Cliff Coleman wrote in from United States  (68.127.nnn.nnn)

Yorck,

Radios work to help the spotters communicate. However, the spotters after getting information on their radios, then need to use hand/arm signals so as not to cause confusion. If the person in the car is yelling/calling out alerts, they may not be heard over the car noise or other traffic/sounds.

Glad you guys are helping with this issue!

Cliff Coleman

 
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Puck Advise and Safety Rules
On 1/5/2005 North Carolina Longboarder- DownHill Billies wrote in from United States  (166.82.nnn.nnn)

Cliff and Herbn: Thanks for the advise on the pucks. I have been using the HDP and have rounded the corners on the other gloves but the ideas Herbn has regarding the attachment options are very good.

Cliff's Safety Advise: Guys, this is good stuff! My local crew rides mostly at night so this type of spotting and signaling is even more important. Three of us happen to also be cyclists so the Car Up Car Back phrases are part of our normal lingo. Pointing out the confusion regarding GO and NO is huge. I am completely deaf in my right ear (from getting hit by a car on a bicycle back in 1981) and I often confuse those two words, especially from a distance. We run several blind intersections and without spotters it is just asking for trouble or DEATH! At night there is little traffic but often the traffic that is there are youngun's hauling ass in their (fill in the blank with your favorite rice burner, 4 wheel drive, or Momma's mini van). We also skate near 4 bars so you know what happens when you mix alcohol, gas powered vehicles, and idiots driving them----DISASTER!

Cliff, thank you for making a big deal about Safety. I am wishing a Happy, Prosperous, Blessed, and Safe 2005 to all you sliders out there!

Marion Karr
North Carolina Longboarder
DownHill Billies

 
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safety
On 1/5/2005 Yorck wrote in from Netherlands  (82.83.nnn.nnn)

Did you ever work with radios combined with earplugs? I thought about it and it could work out great if the car driver in front just announces the cars coming uphill with type and colour. It also helps not to meet the cops on your way.

 
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*!* Important, Please Read *!*
On 1/4/2005 Cliff Coleman wrote in from United States  (68.127.nnn.nnn)

I want to discuss some safety precautions/methods to be used when riding/sliding roads and hills.

Safety Calls/Alerts, while riding:

If we as riders see vechicular traffic, ie, cars, trucks, motorcycles etc., driving/approaching from down the hill, we call out, CAR UP! This refers to the direction that the car/vechicle is traveling. If a car/vechicle is driving behind us as riders, we call out: CAR DOWN! Once again, refering to the direction that the car/vechicle is traveling, downhill. If a car/vechicle approaches from either side, we call out: CAR LEFT, or CAR RIGHT!

CAR BACK! can be used instead of CAR DOWN if you prefer. This is what Bicycle riders use for communication. Both alerts, CAR DOWN and CAR BACK work great.

It is very important to have all riders World Wide, on the same page and using the same alerts!


Hand Signals for spotters:

When skating down the road, any road that leads to a blind turn, the first skater to arrive at the corner is responsible to become the spotter. First he/she must slide to a stop in his/her own lane, prior to the corner. Then that rider positions him/herself to be able to see clearly in both directions. This allows them acting as spotter to see approaching traffic, and the skater who wishes to ride through the turn.

Next the spotter either has to give the GO SIGNAL, or the STOP SIGNAL.

The GO SIGNAL, is when the spotter holds one arm/hand in the air and swings that arm/hand in circles like a windmill. This is simple and works without even speaking a word. "Silence is golden". More on that later.

The STOP SIGNAL, is when the spotter holds up either ONE, or BOTH arms/hands. Straight up and not circling!

!!!Important!!!

The rider must always keep looking at the signal from the spotter. Even after the initial, "ok to proceed signal". Why? The spotter may need to change the signal from GO to STOP, after the rider has begun the descent! The analogy would be, driving a car/vechicle through an intersection. The driver sees that the light is green and drives through. However, if the light changes from green to yellow and then red, the driver must stop to avoid horrible consequences. Don't skate through any blind corner/intersection, without continuing to monitor the spotters signals!

Now, back to "silence is golden" when a spotter is standing at a blind corner/intersection, signaling to GO or NOT to GO to fellow skaters, if you yell NO to the rider who wishes to skate through the blind turn/intersection, NO will rhyme with GO. This could easily cause confusion! Don't use GO or NO for signals! Use your HANDS/ARMS when signaling instead!

With more and more riders out there, we need to remember and use these simple safety methods when skating. If you approach a blind corner/intersection and don't have a spotter, you are playing Russian Roulette with your life! Don't do it!

Skate Safe!
Cliff Coleman

 
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Slider gloves for John Hutchison
On 1/4/2005 Cliff Coleman wrote in from United States  (68.127.nnn.nnn)

John,

If you look to the left of the page you posted on, you will see a web-site for: Timeshipracing.com. Timeship Racing and some other companies have gloves for sale. You can always use the search engine here at ncdsa. Just enter slider gloves. Also, a few posts down, you will see a post by Herbn. He talks about his method of securing the pucks to the gloves.

For my own personal use, I use the new Timeship slider gloves with carbon fibre protection for the knuckles and detachable/replaceable uhmw pucks for the sliding surface.

There you go John,
Cliff Coleman

 
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sliding
On 1/4/2005 John Hutchison wrote in from United States  (24.7.nnn.nnn)

PLEASE!!!! some one help me i need to know what site to get some sliding gloves just please put the link.I have already tried to make my own but the pucks always fall off wut kind of glue do u use well please e-mail me! I realy appreichiate it.

 
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UHMW plastic thickness
On 1/4/2005 Cliff Coleman wrote in from United States  (68.127.nnn.nnn)

Marion,

The thickness of plastic on one's gloves is all a matter of choice. I like mine at .5 because I don't have to reach quite as far to place my glove on the road surface.
Like Herbn says, round the edges of your pucks to help keep them from catching or hanging up on road obstacles.

Herbn,

When are you going to leave the comfort of your town and visit some of us on the West Coast?

Cliff Coleman

 
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